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Argentine Women, Sex, Chocolate & Shopping

November 26th, 2007 | Categoría: Culture

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Stop the presses! Stop the presses!

This just in: Argentine women like sex more than women in other countries. ¡Viva La Argentina! Who cares about Argentina’s economic growth, its inflation or even its newly-elected female president when there are more interesting things to talk about – things like sex. The topic of conversation now is not consumer price inflation but rather the inflated sexual appetites of Argentine women. Nobody is going to complain about this kind of inflation, at least not here in this space.

According to a new survey, Argentine women are more interested in sex than are women in any other country surveyed. Women here said sex is their favorite earthly pleasure, according to the poll, which was conducted by Datos Claros Research Opinion. Argentines said sex is preferable to chocolate, shopping, a romantic dinner, ice cream and even a bouquet of flowers.

According to the study, which was paid for by the deodorant company Axe, 60.5% of Argentine women said sex was their preferred pleasure compared with 54% of respondents from women in other countries. Sex was followed closely by chocolate, shopping and a good meal. Overall, women in most countries surveyed said their preferred pleasure was chocolate.

The survey said Brazilian, Dutch and French women favor chocolate over sex, while Italians, Germans and Mexicans would prefer to go shopping before having sex. Perhaps the way to win over the heart of an Argentine woman would be to follow up a romantic dinner with sex in a chocolate store inside a shopping mall?

Like Argentines, Spanish women also said sex was their favorite pleasurable activity. Can we have a round of applause please for Latino Women?

The survey polled 3,571 women in Argentina, Australia, Brazil, England, France, Germany, Holland, India, Mexico, the Philippines, the UK and U.S.

*Photo: Karina Jelinek, my old neighbor, and the object of many an Argentine’s passion, here in a admittedly cheesy photo with an old friend.

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55 Comments

Coog says:

Er – applause to the “Latino women”? Mexican Women are Latinas as well, so are Brasilieras, and the Italian are as much latino as the Spanish. Just for the record:)

WTFK says:

You don’t think mebbe Karina Jelinek quieres a Yanqui green card?

taca says:

No, WTFK, we do not need your greencard! We don’t need to scape our country, we want to leave it for more experience. And we do it by plane. The problem with most Latino women, besides Argentinean and Brazilian, is the power of the religion, and machismo. In Argentina is different because: We don’t need your credit card (for shopping), we have one. We don’t need your chocolate, we buy ourselves one. We don’t need your flowers, we know we are the best flowers. We still like heterosexual sex, and that why we still deal with men.

Amen!

chocol says:

Can’t say I agree with the survey, but the axe chocolate ad is funny!

Argentine Rocket says:

I wonder if Argentine/Spanish women are just less shy than the rest, and more likely to be honest… maybe other nationalities are shy and don’t want to admit they like sex? Either way, interesting posting, thank you!

Anonymous says:

The woman in the picture above is gorgeous without a doubt. But don’t be fooled by that. The average argentine woman doesn’t look like that. Those are the models that appear on TV and the majority of them go through surgery anyway , so they are usually fake and plastic. But yeah, this particular model is every guy’s dream girl, mine too of course…

NEVERSUMMER says:

…”the average argentine woman doesn’t look like that” … of course not!! They look much better!! Just you have to walk along the street to see it!!

bsastpsNo Gravatar says:

From the well known fact that Argentine women are “histericas” (not in the literal english sense) but meaning that they will give every impression that they are into sex and the like but eventually turning out to be a tease as compared the the Brazilians, i doubt the actual validity of the post-survey reality, i.e., they are highly likely to have answered that they prefer sex over chocolate and shopping, but in reality they din’t mean it since they probably got more satisfaction portraying the fact that they love sex more that actually loving it.

meNo Gravatar says:

A clear sign that you are clueless on women, and probably also fail anywhere in the world.

You need to make more men friends, and learn how to seduce women.

The fact that they are friendly and open to you, -which you know you didn’t earned-, and then they change his minds, should give you a clue.

chumNo Gravatar says:

the Spanish aren’t latino(in the sense that you are using). Latino = Latin America. Is Spain in Latin America?

MarianoNo Gravatar says:

Just for the record
Latin -> From Latin Origin. True latins are Italians and perhaps Sapniards and Portuguese and finally their descendants like Argentinians, Brazilians, etc…

Chum, LATINO refers to all those who are under latin culture direct heritage. Where do you think latin comes from? Paraguay? Latin + America cuzz we are a mix of the latinos that came to america and the native americans in the first place (blacks came later in the process). To your surprise, Portuguese, Spanish, Italians, Romanians, FRENCH and even some Swiss are latinos (and I am not talking about immmigrants). Latin influence as a language all over the world would be another chapter.

CarolNo Gravatar says:

This indicates one of two things: Either men in Argentina take good care of themselves, and are also more loving, romantic and sexually skilled than men anywhere else – making their women crave them. (Hooray for them, if that’s the case!) OR women in Argentina feel a need to say what they believe men want to hear. Any woman who truly enjoys sex will tell you that sex is only great with the right sort of man because emotions and passions are complex. Women who advertise the fact that they’re sex crazed are usually actually approval addicts. This type of woman feels that by giving their sex drive a lot fanfare they will turn men (even creepy men that most women would rather NOT turn on) on and make them popular. (Typically it works, too – since every guy will who hears this will think that it means that woman means she craves sex with HIM – even if he’s a paunchy, dull bore.) In reality, women don’t walk around sex-starved and in need of a random guy to do the job – that’s fluff created by the porn industry, and perpetuated by manipulative women who seduce strangers and feign enjoyment for other reasons. Sadly, some men always want to be gullible and some women tend to work this to their advantage. If a guy who strikes out with women in the U.S. becomes a “chick magnet” in another country, he’s being manipulated by a woman who needs money, legal help or something else he can offer. The woman in the photo is an outstanding beauty in any country. If men want to believe that the majority of women they meet in Argentina look like her, then I have a deed to land on the moon I’d like to sell them.

meag says:

I’m guessing that the study didn’t consider the quality of chocolate and shopping available to the average woman in each country. Since the majority of mass produced (i.e. affordable) chocolate in Argentina tastes like dusty ass and the quality of affordable consumer goods is so low, it’s no surprise that sex looks better. I can’t walk into a reasonably priced clothing store without being suffocated by polyester. If there were a Gap and a Godiva in every mall across the country, and women could afford these pleasures, I’m guessing Argentine women would find other afternoon delights. As it is, everything is closed for siesta anyway and I’ve got nothing better to do…

DonnyNo Gravatar says:

Wow, that’s a great study for guys out there. So, after this guys if you want to go to Argentine, careful of your first move as now you know that Argentina ladies likes sex better than anything.

MartinNo Gravatar says:

it’s not that they like sex more, they are impulsive and don’t think about the question and how to respond

Argentines are the most impulsive people i’ve ever met, and the most outspoken too on a related note.

JuanNo Gravatar says:

DID YOU FUCK HER?
no se como termine aca, pero bueno…tengo derecho a preguntar.

Jo LouiseNo Gravatar says:

Me encanta Argentina, me encantan las compras y ser honesto. Sexo, el chocolate, ir de compras y que tengan un buen trabajo es lo mejor para una mujer a sentirse bien sobre sí misma. Supongo que usted! Estaba hablando de mí mismo.

EthanNo Gravatar says:

Or maybe “que tengan un buen trabajo” comes first and women aren’t honest enough to admit it? Women who marry for money are whores, but of course, nobody wants to marry somebody struggling. How about marrying for love. Sex without love is just disgusting and sordid. Life is hard enough as it is. Deep down inside men want to marry a decent woman, no matter how sleazy they are before they get married. I want to hear that women love stability and long marriages. Sex can be feigned 100% of the time and it doesn’t mean they love you.

LovelyargieNo Gravatar says:

Ok i will say some things about this blog.
The girl from the photo ,Karina is good looking i know her well she has been my neighbour in Palermo and she went out with a friend of mine, an ex rich guy.She is sexy very hot and love hard sex (i know details but i won;t tell them) and all that is good but on the other side she is not clever at all.There are much more girls in Argentina that are that beautiful and much more refined clever and so on.Thats why as i know her i can tellyou she is not the dream of some of us.
2:Girls in argentina specially from the centre and south part are a good mix of italian,spanish and another places in less proportion and they like to be thin and well trained that s why they are attractive for most of men of the rest of the world.
and finally american people that haven t been in buenos aires and argentina cant understand that people are not attractive at all for being american specially from the high levels places, instead we prefer european much more as a refined reference.We look american people nice people but without good taste and not refined at all and with a a little bit of ignorance about most places outside the states itself

carlos says:

“and finally american people that haven t been in buenos aires and argentina cant understand that people are not attractive at all for being american specially from the high levels places, instead we prefer european much more as a refined reference.We look american people nice people but without good taste and not refined at all and with a a little bit of ignorance about most places outside the states itself”

And what gives Argentines the right to define who’s refined and who’s not? I for one have been to Argentina and didn’t find the natives refined in the slightest. Exceptions aside, I found most to be the exact opposite, and not only unrefined fashion-wise but also abrupt in their manner and lacking in pleasantries. Really, if you think the average argentine is refined, it’s obvious that you’ve never been out of the country…
That said, your statement that Americans lack good taste and are not refined at all is a gross generalization. While that may be the case for a redneck from the Deep South, not all Americans are like that. The Americans from the big cities in the East Coast are known for their sophistication and elegance. I can assure you the average New Yorker is much more refined than most people in Buenos Aires.
On another note, I find it ironic that you even have the nerve to call Americans ignorant after making such an uninformed post yourself. Do you ever look in the mirror?

MikeNo Gravatar says:

Carlos, although I don’t fully agree with Lovelyargie, I think there’s a speck of truth in her post. Let me start off by saying that I’m American, and I’ve lived in Argentina for over a decade. Although (some; a minotrity of) Americans may be superficially more refined, I think that Argentineans have a rich culture and tend to be less ignorant than the average American, generally speaking; especially when it comes to issues about the rest of the world. I’ve heard several experienced professors from American colleges say that American education is considerably poor compared to that of European countries, and IMHO, Argentina, where students are taught to think for themselves instead of repeating the answers of a multiple choice exam. That may be an explanation to the “ignorance” Lovelyargie was talking about. The average Argentinean high school student is exposed to much more than the average American high school student as well. I know because I went to school there, and the differences in the educational systems is a topic I always discuss with my friends in California. They call me lucky, you may call me snob; but you know… It’s not surprising to see international students that have a better grasp of the English language than natives… it’s sad.

When it comes to manners, Americans may be more polite, but they’re dead cold compared to South Americans and Europeans (or “rude” in our culture’s perspective). I would much rather meet people who are abrupt in their manners than people who could possibly sue me for the silliest thing. The lack of social proximity is ridiculous to me, but you may you prefer politeness and distance. Cultural differences, I guess, but what’s undeniable is that Americans are spoiled by customer service. I travelled to Europe with American friends recently, and it was funny how they constantly complained about the bad service in restaurants among other places, while it seemed perfectly normal to me.

CarlosNo Gravatar says:

Mike,

Your whole post is nothing but a load of utter nonsense.Your views on Argentina are totally skewed and unrealistic, only surpassed by your bias against Americans… Let’s see…

“Although (some; a minotrity of) Americans may be superficially more refined, I think that Argentineans have a rich culture and tend to be less ignorant than the average American, generally speaking; especially when it comes to issues about the rest of the world”.

You gotta be kidding me… Argentines are one of the least international people I’ve ever come across… The vast majority couldn’t care less about the rest of the world. After all, Argentina is the best country on Earth and everything Argentine is the best, right? Why should they care about other countries? That pretty much sums up the mentality of your average Argentine. Besides, the fact that most never travel abroad doesn’t help, either… Not to mention that Argentine society itself is very homogeneous and lacking in diversity to begin with… All this makes people very provincial and narrow-minded. It doesn’t take a genius to realize that… You don’t know what you’re talking about if you think Argentines compare favorably to Americans… The US, unlike Argentina, is a multicultural nation. Americans can trace their ancestry to the most diverse backgrounds. Besides, the US receives immigrants from every part of the world. This diversity makes it culturally rich. This is NOT the case with Argentina. Argentines on a whole are a homogeneous group and it shows in their culture. The lack of diversity makes it extremely bland and monochromatic. I fail to see any richness in it… Your remark about it being rich is risible…

“I’ve heard several experienced professors from American colleges say that American education is considerably poor compared to that of European countries”

Argentina is NOT Europe. Far from it…

“and IMHO, Argentina, where students are taught to think for themselves instead of repeating the answers of a multiple choice exam. That may be an explanation to the “ignorance” Lovelyargie was talking about. The average Argentinean high school student is exposed to much more than the average American high school student as well. I know because I went to school there, and the differences in the educational systems is a topic I always discuss with my friends in California.”

Sorry to disappoint you, but the Argentine education system is NOT better than the American one. As a matter of fact, it SUCKS. Public schools lack government funding, the kids don’t learn anything, there is no discipline, the teachers are always on strike and care more about protesting than teaching…. I could go on for ages. Just listen to any expert on the subject… Coincidentally, not long ago I saw a talk show on Argentine TV where they were discussing this issue. All the guests, who were education experts, agreed that the state of Argentine education is very poor. One of them even said that Argentine education is obsolete and needs reform and that the American system is much more modern. Maybe you are unaware of all this because you went to one of those expensive private schools that only the very rich can afford. Of course the education there is going to be excellent. But you fail to realize that those are elitist schools for high class people, hardly representative of the public education system…

“American education is considerably poor compared to that of European countries, and IMHO, Argentina, where students are taught to think for themselves instead of repeating the answers of a multiple choice exam.”

Argentine students taught to think for themselves?? HAHAHA I’m really starting to doubt that you attended school in Argentina. If you really did, you wouldn’t make such a ridiculous statement… Actually, an Argentine exam typically consists of a number of questions that the kids have to answer by repeating what they were told by the teachers and what the reading material says… They just memorize what they are told and put it in paper. IMO, that is hardly thinking for oneself…
Let’s face it… The Argentine education system is old-fashioned and boring, and based on memorization. The kids are educated the same way people were in the 18th century… At least the US system is more modern and the students are taught in a more didactic fashion. Unlike what you said, American kids not only do multiple choice tests but are also given research work, have to write essays, etc. That’s rarely seen in Argentina.
The Argentine education system is even worse than the American one. There’s no doubt about that. I strongly suggest you GET INFORMED before making comparisons.

“That may be an explanation to the “ignorance” Lovelyargie was talking about.”

As far as ignorance is concerned, I think you are the epitome of it. Just look at your post…

“The average Argentinean high school student is exposed to much more than the average American high school student as well.”

I agree wholeheartedly on this one. The average Argentinian student is indeed exposed to much more… The constant teacher strikes, schools that fall apart, with no heating in winter… I’m sure the average American student isn’t exposed to all that…

“They call me lucky, you may call me snob; but you know…”

I don’t call you snob, just ignorant…

“It’s not surprising to see international students that have a better grasp of the English language than natives… it’s sad.”

And how are Argentines better? In case you didn’t know, young Argentines these days struggle to put two sentences together. Have you heard them speak? It seems not. Perhaps you haven’t visited Argentina in a long time… Things have changed…

“When it comes to manners, Americans may be more polite, but they’re dead cold compared to South Americans and Europeans (or “rude” in our culture’s perspective).”

LOL The level of IDIOCY that you reach in your comments doesn’t cease to amaze me. Any reasonable person would agree that it is the Europeans who are colder than Americans, not the other way around. Europeans tend to be formal and reserved, there’s no way Americans could be ‘dead cold’ by comparison to them. Have you ever heard of American friendliness? That’s rarely found in Europe. Even the Europeans themselves admit that Americans are more friendly and warm. But I guess in your mind talking any nonsense is ok, as long as it makes Americans look bad.
As for South Americans, you can’t lump them all together like that… Colombians, Brazilians, etc may be warm, but Argentines are nothing like the rest of South Americans, they are a whole different species. I for one don’t find them warm in the slightest, much less in BA. It is a known fact that porteños are very reserved and stuck up. They are friendly only when they are with close friends and relatives, but who isn’t in that setting?… IMHO, to know if someone is truly friendly you have to see how they treat strangers, and porteños leave a lot to be desired in that department. Unless they know you very well, they treat you coldly and in a distant manner. You rarely see them exchanging kind words and pleasantries with strangers as is commonplace in the US. Argentines reserve their kindness to their circle of people, they don’t make much of an effort to appear friendly to outsiders. Americans, on the other hand, are friendly towards EVERYONE, many times even to random people they meet in the street.
Please stop putting Argentines on a pedestal… They don’t deserve it. Plus, so much flattery is making you look obsequious… Don’t get me wrong, I do understand Argentina butt-kissing is your favorite pastime… I just think you’re taking it a bit too far…

“I would much rather meet people who are abrupt in their manners than people who could possibly sue me for the silliest thing.”

What THE HELL do lawsuits have to do with this topic??? I guess you just have to get everything mixed up, as a way to compensate for your lack of arguments… Yes, in the US there’s a lot of suing… maybe the reason for that is the US has an efficient judicial system… unlike Argentina where you have to wait an eternity to obtain a sentence… and teenagers are allowed to commit crimes with total impunity because they can’t be legally punished… Please don’t get me started on the Argentine judicial system…

“The lack of social proximity is ridiculous to me, but you may you prefer politeness and distance.”

Politeness is a display of respect and consideration towards others… The fact that you equate it with distance goes to show, once again, how ignorant you are. So, according to your mentality, being abrupt and ill-mannered is preferable to being polite… and also an indicator of social proximity. Sure, because bad manners, insulting, yelling, etc bring people all that much closer together… No wonder you like Argentines so much… You must find their lack of civility very appealing…

“but what’s undeniable is that Americans are spoiled by customer service.”

Again, what the hell does this have to do with anything? Yes, standards for customer service are high in the US… But lemme guess… you prefer the awful customer service in Argentina… Ok, I guess you would like any piece of crap as long as it is from Argentina.
Mike, your fixation on denigrating Americans as a way to praise Argentines doesn’t speak too well of yourself… Maybe this attitude of yours is a product of so many years of Argentine education… Finally, they convinced you that they are better than your own nationality… No offense but, could it be that while you thought you were being ‘taught to think for yourself’ in reality you were being a victim of indoctrination? Just guessing…

shoNo Gravatar says:

New Yorkers more refined than people from Buenos Aires? r u kidding me???!!!!!
yeap I can confirmed americans are ignorants and now arrogants….they think they are all that, but they have no idea. A lot of americans wonder if Argentina is part of Europe? ….
soooo sad……for you……lol

F.U

CarlosNo Gravatar says:

sho,

From your comment, I have to assume that you are Argentine. You LOVE to prove a point, don’t you? :-)

EthanNo Gravatar says:

New Yorkers and folks in Boston and nearby areas are very rude and are an exception to the rule. Generalizing is foolish as New Yorkers do not represent Americans at all. However, the rest of the country is very friendly, in somewhat different degrees.

VampirelleNo Gravatar says:

Carlos, I’m really impressed. You can talk about the politeness of Americans and still be unpolite.
I’m not going to spend much time with you, because I don’t want to get pissed, but I’ll tell you some things you ought to know…

1. Do you know what the UBA is? Universidad de Buenos Aires. Buenos Aires’ University is the best University of the country. It receives students from Paraguay, Uruguay, Chile, Bolivia, etc.

2. Homogeneity? Agrgentinian women are more beautiful than women of the other South American countries because they descend from a mixture resulted from the immigration of the last decades of the XIX century and the first of the XX century.
I’ll teach you something about Argentinian history. The Native people of this country was almost exterminated by the Spanish, and due to this and the Spanish, Italian and German Immigration, Argentinians have a huge variety of cultures, interests and features.
Also, many people from Paraguay, Uruguay, Bolivia, Chile, Peru, etc. move here to find work, and their children to study and get a professional degree. As you must know, most universities in America are paid, while the UBA is PUBLIC, and totally free. Also, being an UBA graduate is very appreciated even in your country.
3. Most people prefer to send their children to public high schools not because of the money, but because most private schools are pretty bad. The Nacional Buenos Aires school, Carlos Pellegrini School, and Lenguas Vivas school are the best public high schools of the country, and they are FREE, you only have to sit for an entrance exam (you have to study a lot, though, due to the low quantity of vacancies)
In this PUBLIC SCHOOLS they teach the usual subjects plus English and Latin, and an extra language (you can choose between portuguese, german and fench).

I won’t deny we have a lot of insecurity, economic problems, etc, but you can’t say we’re an homogeneous society, or that we have a bad education.
I would like to say also that all the exchange students (New Zealand, France and Austria) I have met, have loved argentinian people, and come back whenever they can. They say we are the warmest people they’ll ever meet (besides Brazilians, they say, I haven’t travelled there but it must be true XD).
One last thing: argentinian are more aware of the world than many countries. My actual boyfriend has been an exchange student in Japan, and they didn’t even know about the holocaust. I know this doesn’t happen very often, but it’s an example. You must understand that having a very dependant economy and family all over the world we are very aware of what happens outside Argentina (for example my grandad was spanish and my grandparents italian, and we still talk to our uncles and cousins from there).

AstorNo Gravatar says:

Americans are the nicest people. I am argentine and lived/studied in boston for a couple of years and everybody i knew in the US was friendly in a way or another. I think that comparing americans “against” argentineans is a rellay silly way of wasting time. Instead, let’s just take what’s better from each country and complement our experiences with its people. There are many strong differences though, but this is a good thing. For example, americans can’t dance no matter how hard they try. They move and can repeat coreographies but have no grace at all. I am not sure they can even understand what i am saying. But still that’s a funny thing to watch and i hope they still come to buenos aires to try to dance tango!

DRRKNo Gravatar says:

I’m American male, so I want to meet Argentine women before planning a trip to Argentina. What websites for regional meeting?

-DRRK

hmm.. says:

I am not a fan of Argentine women… It’s all about Brazil!

ReaderNo Gravatar says:

I have been to Argentina and the woman are not very attractive. Very rare to see a beauty there.

shoNo Gravatar says:

THEY WERE PROBABLY HIDDING FROM YOU…LOL
JUST ASK ROBERT DUVALL, MATT DAMON, MICHAEL BUBLE OR JAMES SHERMAN….
GOOD LUCK MEN

BubblegumNo Gravatar says:

Well, what can I say? I am aregentinian, and love sex more than ANYTHING in the World!

MarisaNo Gravatar says:

Enjoying sex does not mean a woman is going to have sex with just anyone. Why call the women a tease just because they have sex with you.

MarisaNo Gravatar says:

Whoops I meant to say “Won’t have sex with you.”

ghaderNo Gravatar says:

hi.
i have a question. but its not about this post!!
whats that green bracelet in the picture? what does mean?? i watch that between argentina behavor in the match between argentina & south korea in the world cup!!
and at last congratulation for your win…
please answer me. thanks

SandraNo Gravatar says:

As an Argentine ex-pat living in Houston…yes Argentine women are beautiful. I consider myself pretty attractive and when I went to Buenos Aires I was floored by how many gorgeous women and men there were! And very few overweight people. Most were definitely not plastic either….you see more plastic Argentines state side.

lizaNo Gravatar says:

This is mainly for Carlos, I wrote it in spanish because thats the way it came out, but If you are so interested in knowing what a girl from argentina has to say, take your time in translating it, as I read all you had to say in english
Soy una chica de argentina, y como muchos de aca hablan sin saber es mejor que les aclare ciertas cosas, especialmente a Carlos.
1_ Sobre los colegios puedo decir que es verdad que tenemos muchos paros, pero no tiene nada que ver con las ganas de trabajar de los profesores, sino con que varias escuelas del estado no estan en condiciones, y por eso reclaman. Tengo una amiga que vino de estados unidos y les puedo decir que lo que dijieron antes sobre cómo estudian alla y aca es verdad. Aca todo se trata de pensar por nosotros mismos y opinar, y no voy a hacer incapié en cómo estudian alla porque no soy quién para decirlo, pero si crees que aca se trata sobre multiple choice estás equivocado.
Y sobre el manejo del idioma extranjero, ahi sí puedo hablar tranquilamente. Conoci un montón de gente estadounidense y nadie maneja el español con fluidez. En Buenos Aires practicamente el 90% de la gente maneja muy bien el ingles, te lo dice alguien que tiene solo 15 años y ya rindió varios examenes internacionales de ingles, de anglia y cambridge.

Es verdad que pensamos que tenemos la razon siempre, y como argentina puedo decirte que sí, pienso que mi pais es hermoso y no lo cambiaria por nada, pero eso no significa que no se que hay paises en mejores condiciones, tampoco somos estupidos, solo muy nacionalistas.

falta de educacion o incivilizados? me parece que no tenes ni un poquito de razon. Los argentinos somos menos educados en el sentido en el que dejamos las formalidades a un lado y tratamos a la gente como si ya la conocieramos. Si eso te parece mal, va por tu cuenta pero no creas que es falta de respeto sino una manera de demostrar nuestra calidez y de tratar de incluir a los que nos visitan. He visto como se saludan en estados unidos y dejame decirte que no es lo que yo quiero. Mi manera de ser vivir aca es otra. Saludo a la gente con un beso en la mejilla, hablo un monton y me intereso por la vida de los demas, como con amigos o con gente que no conozco y la pasamos super bien y ayudo a los extranjeros cuando necesitan algo, como pedir direcciones, etc.

Asique Carlos si querés hablar, no hables sin saber. Tu perspectiva es totalmente la de un extranjero que talvez no pasó un buen momento aca, pero no es el caso de la mayoria. Y dejame decirte que decis que nosotros creemos que somos los mejores, pero todos tus reproches muestran lo mismo de tu parte.
Te conviene visitar Argentina otra vez, como le dijiste a Mike , y dejar de pensar que sabes mucho de nosotros porque no es asi.
Y la proxima vez que tengas dudas sobre nuestro pais, te conviene preguntar a alguien que vive aca y te lo dice 100% segura. No soy quien para juzgar a estados unidos, puedo decir que no me gustaria vivir en un lugar donde la gente es tan educada y fria ( y lo he visto asique nada de decir: no sabes nada), asique no sos quien para juzgarnos.

pd: y ya que estamos te queria decir que una profesora mia viajo a Alemania y nos contó que no venden bebidas de tamaño grande, ¿sabes que dijo? que alla no comparten las bebidas, porque no son de juntarse con gente solo por que sí.

PabloNo Gravatar says:

When I went to New York, I have been asked twice whether Argentina was in Europe. Furthermore, one of them stated that Argentina was placed besides Italy in the Map.. !

More amazing was the fact that, he had a bachelor degree in engineering, so now I am not even speaking about the “Average” American, but a highly educated one. If you want to study at university, please choose Europe, unless you want to hear this kind of things from American “highly educated people”
No comments..

Just make your conclusions about American Educational Level.
Regards,
Pablo

EthanNo Gravatar says:

Sorry but “somos muy nacionalistas” is a problem,because nationalism is arrogance and a rude projection of superiority,regardless of where it comes from. Nationalism is just egotism. People have the same needs everywhere to love and be loved. People don’t need to prove their country. It is what it is. I know my countries’ problem very well and I’m honest about them. I don’t think any country is perfect. Some are better in some ways.

En serio?No Gravatar says:

Are you serious? If Argentinians are receiving such a great education, why does it have the problems it has? What point is an education anywhere if people don’t change things? 25% inflation is not being helped by your assertion that Argentinians think for themselves. It isn’t helping the unemployment rate. It isn’t helping endemic corruption. Nationalism is idiotic. It just divides people. All our countries have problems. Many of them will not go away, but people being nice will always make things better. The whole “somos los mejores” attitude, which is a notorious Argentinian stereotype known throughout Latin America, does not endear people to Argentinians. Maybe that is the European influence coming out. In Europe, the Spanish complain that Argentianians are taking Spanish jobs, which are few and far between. Now even fewer. In Spain the Argentinians and all other Latin Americans often have to pay their tab first in bars. And why to Argentinians always call Spaniards “gallegos”? Gallegos are from Galicia–one small region in the northwest of Spain. And why all the hoopla over kissing upon greeting? So what? Are people cold if they don’t do it? I don’t think so.

PatrickNo Gravatar says:

Liza, mucho de lo que dijiste es verdad, y tenes razon en defender Argentina contra unas de las estupideces que escribieron aqui, pero en hacer eso vos tambien dijiste unas cosas que tambien muestra una falta de entendimiento de otras culturas.

“En Buenos Aires practicamente el 90% de la gente maneja muy bien el ingles,”

90%??..!!!!…Aunque sea muy impresionante el nivel de ingles de muchos en Buenos Aires, y el nivel de educacion en general si dices cosas asi, tu punto estara perdido, porque es muy obvio a todos que practicamente 90% es una estadistica un poco ridicula.

“Mi manera de ser vivir aca es otra. Saludo a la gente con un beso en la mejilla, hablo un monton y me intereso por la vida de los demas, como con amigos o con gente que no conozco y la pasamos super bien y ayudo a los extranjeros cuando necesitan algo, como pedir direcciones, etc.”

Bueno Liza, pareces una buena persona, pero estamos hablando de la gente Argentina o de una Argentina?! Hay muchos que hacen eso, en Argentina Y hay muchos que no hacen eso. Y yo he conecido ambos!

Y bueno, en fin, no quiero criticarte porque tienes mucha razon de defender Argentina contra los ignorantes, porque para mi es un pais con una gente culturamente y educativamente al igual que casi toda de Europa, pero la trampa es que en lo que has escrito, tu tambien puedes parecer igual que los ignorantes.

“No soy quien para juzgar a estados unidos, puedo decir que no me gustaria vivir en un lugar donde la gente es tan educada y fria ( y lo he visto asique nada de decir: no sabes nada), asique no sos quien para juzgarnos”

“He visto como se saludan en estados unidos y dejame decirte que no es lo que yo quiero.”

“pd: y ya que estamos te queria decir que una profesora mia viajo a Alemania y nos contó que no venden bebidas de tamaño grande, ¿sabes que dijo? que alla no comparten las bebidas, porque no son de juntarse con gente solo por que sí.”

……….Yo soy medio anciano(!) y durante una vida probablamente mas larga que la tuya, he viajado mucho, y he tenido la suerte de poder pasar tiempo viviendo en paises tan distintos como Irlanda, Japon, India, Alemania, Argentina, Estados Unidos y Mexico. Y tengo que decir que siempre me da pena que tan comun es no poder aceptar los ‘HABITOS’ de gente de otras culturas y paises, o tomarlos para significar que esa gente es, de cualquier manera, inferior, o no es buena gente o es mas fria, o mal educada o lo que sea. Pero como dije, es comun, muy, muy comun.
Es una gran pena porque, aunque sea muy dificil al principio, y dificil imaginar, si pasas suficiente tiempo con gente de otros ‘HABITOS’ entenderas que puedes tener muy buenos amigos de cualquier cultura y tras hecho unos amigos asi, podras contar con ellos, podras tener confianzas en ellos, entender a ellos, vivir con ellos, enamorarte con ellos y llorar por ellos cuando se mueran hasta que tu mismo quieras morir. Y es posible que todo esto podras hacer igual, o aun mas a veces, que con una persona de tu propia cultura. Puedes tener amistades y amores muy profundos con gente que tenga completemente distintas maneras de expresar amistad y amor. En unas culturas, es mas obvio, en otras mas sutil, pero esta, siempre esta.

Ps I hope you understand my Spanish :)

Liza says:

Patrick, entiendo tu punto de vista, sin embargo con respecto al primer item, debo decirte que, aunque seguramente exageré en el numero por haber contestado media enojada ante la ignorancia de alguno acá, la mayoría de los colegios privados enseñan inglés como segunda lengua y los chicos graduados de allí salen con un excelente inglés. En mi caso, estoy legalmente autorizada para ser profesora solo por haber rendido ciertos examenes internacionales.
Con respecto a tener amistades por el mundo, sí las tengo. Me escribo con personas de Inglaterra, América Central, y Estados Unidos; y realmente disfruto de las diferencias culturales, ya que podemos intercambiar un montón de conocimientos. Entiendo que siempre va a haber distintas experiencias; como en cualquier pais vas a encontrar gente “mala” o gente “buena” por asi decirlo. Yo como argentina puedo decirte que es mayor la cantidad de personas de las que estoy orgullosa de llamar argentina que al revés… y te lo dice alguien que está consciente que hay mucho para cambiar si queremos mejorar la calidad de vida. El problema está mayoritariamente en el gobierno, no en la calidad de personas; de eso estoy 100% segura.

BillNo Gravatar says:

I am an American and am planning to spend some time in Argentina. 47, Single, Retired Military, educated and an outdoor adventurer, I am hoping to find Argentina so attractive and remaining there is an option. While in the US Navy, I traveled the world, but have never been to South America. The women appear to be exceptionally attractive both physically and intellectuality. I have been researching the internet looking for information and after reading this blog, have decided to share what I have learned. NOTHING…. LOL. I am now so confused that I don’t know what to think. Are educated American businessmen in their forty’s acceptable to Argentine women or not? I don’t expect that Argentine women will flock to me because I am an American. But, but would maybe 10% find an average foreigner, who is trying to learn the language and culture Argentina desirable, even if he is from America?

BillNo Gravatar says:

I don’t find all American women attractive. I don’t expect to find all Argentine women attractive either.

It’s interesting to see so many different ideas about what is stereotyped as “average”.

I have decided that the only REAL way to find out the situation is to get on the plane and fly down for a couple of weeks. December 1st is the target date. Than, I’ll just get on here and tell you all my findings. It’s my hope that Argentine women will have an appreciation for a well educated, well dressed, mannered, confident man – even if he is from the US. I’m only looking for One Woman to meet my needs, not the entire female population. LOL

dewNo Gravatar says:

This is a very sad thing to say, even if you are argentinian, to put sex before everything when it comes to your woman. I’m from the US and I met a very beautiful argentinian girl online, and yeah she liked sex, we talked about it all the time on skype, but we also talked about alot of other things and had long conversations, she was a very intelligent, smart person, and very sweet and caring too. But just like any other girl you can find like this, anywhere in the world, although it is a rare thing because they are special, unfortunately they get sucked back in to this shit hole we call reality and have guys approaching them 24/7 trying to get down their pants and charm them and “seduce them” just for a little fun in the bedroom and a notch on their bed post. Argentinian women are no different than any other women, and neither are the men, the only difference would be that arenti;nians eat organs of animals instead of steaks and kiss eachother on the cheek when they say hello, or drink mate and enjoy soccer or futbol a little more than other countrcountries

I have been to Argentina twice, both times on business trips. Obviously you can’t get to know a big country having been there a total of 18 days; therefore I don’t have any definite opinions, just some basic observations. I did see some beautiful women in Argentina, but no more so than the U.S. or many other countries I have visited. I saw beautiful Argentine women is places where you are most likely to the best looking women, but the average Argentine women is ‘average’. In America there is a perception of an abundance of beautiful women from certain countries caused by the media. America’s perception of Argentine women is based somewhat on models, tourism ads and the fact that Argentines themselves do a good job of promoting their women.

Personally, I did not fine Argentines to be smarter, more cultured or politer than Americans and the average Argentine women I saw definitely were not the standard of beautify for the world. In terms of beauty, what I did fine in Argentina, which I also witnessed similarly in other Latin American countries, is they emphasize and celebrate beauty more so than they do in the U.S. Being beautiful women in a Latin American country is worth its weight in gold and you are expected to capitalize on it. In America you have beautiful women in medical school or working at retail stores. I enjoyed my visits to Argentina and don’t have anything bad to say about the country; however I was struck by a few things. First, Buenos Aires is a completely different world from the rest of the Argentina; it is almost like a separate country. Second, the lack of ethnic diversity, which for a non Caucasian had its pluses and minuses. I found one women who was interested in me mainly because I was different, but most of the women I met were clearly uncomfortable with me because of my ethnicity.

Because of the significant role the United States plays in the world, it is almost normal for other countries to criticize us. Perhaps it is similar to why so many people dislike sports teams like the New York Yankees, Real Madrid, or Manchester United for example. America is a difficult country to classify; we in many ways fit every bad and good stereotype. I have lived, traveled and worked pretty much all over the world. I have spent as about much time living abroad as I have in the states and what I will tell you that Americans are the smartest people in the world, have the most beautiful women in the world and are the nicest people in the world. I don’t have time to go into a long explanation why, but these are facts that anyone who has lived in the U.S. long enough and in enough places will tell you. Unless you live in the Amazon Jungle or the Sahara Desert, who could not make it through a day without using an American invention. Unplug, your refrigerator, turn off you air condition, don’t watch television, don’t drive your car, don’t take an aspirin for your pain and God forbid you ever need a blood or an organ transplant or antibiotic to treat your infection…this is all compliments of a nations of dummies. In terms of beautiful women, America’s problem is that for many decades we it set the standard and defined for the world what a beautiful woman was. In terms or being impolite and so many other bad things, America gets more Visa requests than the entire content of Europe and South America combined and we have a difficult time getting people to leave.

LapelpinsNo Gravatar says:

I visited Argentina back in ’93 and thought they were the friendliest most quick to help a stranger of most countries I have visited. In general, most of the Argentinians were friendly and happy go lucky people. Very laid back and easy going. I would say the typical Argentine woman is a few steps up on the beauty ladder compared to most other countries woman.
I just love the country, the culture and the women.

NANOTSONo Gravatar says:

The Argentinain women I have met ( and I have met many) party too much, smoke too much, are dramatic, shop too much, socialize too much, are arrogant, self centered, air headed, and have bad feminine hygiene. American women (of course not all) have them beat hands down. I’ll give Argetianian women one thing though, they are typically culturally educated ; however, I think this is mainly to impress those at the dinner table where they raise their wine glasses and shout Salud !

pablo says:

I agree with most of what you said, except that they are culturally educated :-) Have you been here? If so, I’d like to talk to you about some things. My email is athena272@live.com

EthanNo Gravatar says:

American women, like the men are boozers(which destroys sperm quality and causes birth defects)at least when they are young-unless they are devout Baptists or Mormons, friendly, loud, brash, abrasive and overbearing, humble, lack good taste and are unbelievably ignorant of just about anything outside of the U.S. and are usually fat, obese and slobs (not dainty at all) when it comes to dressing or carrying themselves in a classy manner.

pablo says:

sorry to bother you, could you please delete the first comment and leave the second? I thought the first comment had been lost so I published another one.. sorry for the inconvenience

taosNo Gravatar says:

Sure, deleted. The other one was already deleted, so you’ll need to submit it again. Saludos!

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