Comments on: Argentina’s Anti-Americanism: Part 2 http://www.argentinepost.com/2007/12/argentinas-anti-americanism-part-2.html Information & Insight on Argentina Sat, 04 Feb 2012 22:30:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: NO TENES NI IDEA COMO FUNCIONA EL MUNDO http://www.argentinepost.com/2007/12/argentinas-anti-americanism-part-2.html#comment-8367 NO TENES NI IDEA COMO FUNCIONA EL MUNDO Sun, 19 Jun 2011 03:43:24 +0000 http://argentinepost.com/?p=28#comment-8367 To last comment: The little difference between Soviet Union and USA is that the Soviet Union no longer exist. USA DOES. Are you some kind of "let's get over it" idiot?? America's government not only supported but also PUSHED those dictatorship movementes in Latin America. I don't care if "communism was spreading".. there's no EXCUSE for killing. NONE. And USA not only supported L.A. de facto government, along it's history it has participated in a lot of idiotic wars, driving into some other people's territoty in order to establish their own policy over there. AND THEY KEEP DOING IT. How can you possibly forget?? Do you think that WE are stupid? That we won't fight for our own rights? Even when American government keeps slaughtering them? NO. We are not American. We won't go war with you just because we don't like you. Because even if I think that you're completely wrong, there's no need to go a kill you. You stay in US, and you'll notice how people will stop talking badly about you. COMPLETELY ASSURED. And yes. Argentine society is broken. Completely. It's a failure. People keep voting the same assholios they did old time ago. But you know what? America does the same. BUSH won not once, but TWO times. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? The only difference between our society is that yours thinks they are the greatest country in the world and can do as they please everywhere. But be noticed. This is going to end. And soon. USA will go down. It's not a threat. It won't be because of your made up "terrorism". It is just because your point in history is completed. You're already on the way down, and so does the world. MAJOR CHANGE TIMES AHEAD. Mark my words. To last comment:
The little difference between Soviet Union and USA is that the Soviet Union no longer exist. USA DOES. Are you some kind of “let’s get over it” idiot?? America’s government not only supported but also PUSHED those dictatorship movementes in Latin America. I don’t care if “communism was spreading”.. there’s no EXCUSE for killing. NONE. And USA not only supported L.A. de facto government, along it’s history it has participated in a lot of idiotic wars, driving into some other people’s territoty in order to establish their own policy over there. AND THEY KEEP DOING IT. How can you possibly forget?? Do you think that WE are stupid? That we won’t fight for our own rights? Even when American government keeps slaughtering them? NO. We are not American. We won’t go war with you just because we don’t like you. Because even if I think that you’re completely wrong, there’s no need to go a kill you. You stay in US, and you’ll notice how people will stop talking badly about you. COMPLETELY ASSURED.
And yes. Argentine society is broken. Completely. It’s a failure. People keep voting the same assholios they did old time ago. But you know what? America does the same. BUSH won not once, but TWO times. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? The only difference between our society is that yours thinks they are the greatest country in the world and can do as they please everywhere.
But be noticed. This is going to end. And soon. USA will go down. It’s not a threat. It won’t be because of your made up “terrorism”. It is just because your point in history is completed. You’re already on the way down, and so does the world. MAJOR CHANGE TIMES AHEAD. Mark my words.

]]> By: Sin dolor no te haces felz http://www.argentinepost.com/2007/12/argentinas-anti-americanism-part-2.html#comment-5284 Sin dolor no te haces felz Sun, 07 Nov 2010 05:19:30 +0000 http://argentinepost.com/?p=28#comment-5284 To the last comment dated 10/26/09...yeah right. An administration's support for another's certainly makes all the difference. Let's hate Americans (estadounidenses for all you noun-obsessed Argentines). That's such an idiotic example. Eastern Europe should hate, in the most vitriolic frothy venomous sense, Russia. It was the Russian empire (USSR, if you will), after all, that murdered tens of millions of non-communist Poles, Magyars, Romanians, Ukranians, etc. and deported them, and what not. The fact that the Junta Militar murderers did what they did with 30K people has nothing to do with Argentina's jealousy of the USA. Argentina is almost a failed country. Look at Chile. They are the shining example of progress. Argentina is too mired in its "pero che, somos europeos" bullshit to progress beyond its backwards governance. Yuck. Blame your own government, change it, and then come complain. To the last comment dated 10/26/09…yeah right. An administration’s support for another’s certainly makes all the difference. Let’s hate Americans (estadounidenses for all you noun-obsessed Argentines). That’s such an idiotic example. Eastern Europe should hate, in the most vitriolic frothy venomous sense, Russia. It was the Russian empire (USSR, if you will), after all, that murdered tens of millions of non-communist Poles, Magyars, Romanians, Ukranians, etc. and deported them, and what not.
The fact that the Junta Militar murderers did what they did with 30K people has nothing to do with Argentina’s jealousy of the USA. Argentina is almost a failed country. Look at Chile. They are the shining example of progress. Argentina is too mired in its “pero che, somos europeos” bullshit to progress beyond its backwards governance. Yuck. Blame your own government, change it, and then come complain.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.argentinepost.com/2007/12/argentinas-anti-americanism-part-2.html#comment-3055 Anonymous Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:50:15 +0000 http://argentinepost.com/?p=28#comment-3055 Actually people in Argentina hate the USA so much because they were supportive of the Dirty War in Argentina (it claimed 30 000 lives). That kind of thing people don't forget anytime soon. Actually people in Argentina hate the USA so much because they were supportive of the Dirty War in Argentina (it claimed 30 000 lives). That kind of thing people don’t forget anytime soon.

]]> By: un americain-quebecois http://www.argentinepost.com/2007/12/argentinas-anti-americanism-part-2.html#comment-1179 un americain-quebecois Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:33:35 +0000 http://argentinepost.com/?p=28#comment-1179 Anonymous (post preceding this one), I can say with absolute certainty that jealousy is the problem. But it sucks, to be truthful. I have this love/love relationship with Argentina but I cannot stand, rather I cannot tolerate the complex Argentines have with the United States. It is so remarkable because so many Argies are so tremendously anti-American. There is not, nor has there been, a true validating basis for hating another country like that. I am fully aware of the US anti-Soviet policy of the 70s and the junta militar, and let's not even get into the fact that the Soviets and Cubans were the ones actively trying to spead their idealism in Latina America, but I cannot fathom how people can loathe others so much. I dated one Argie girl a few years ago who said the following after a couple of dates, "Sos bueno, para ser un yanqui de mierda." The idiocy has no bounds. I suppose we'll become as loathed as the English with all of those Argentine "los ingleses son piratas" stories and the obsession with the windswept Malvinas/Falklands. What the hell happened? European immigrants go to the US and they are for the most part normal, European immigrants go to Argentina and they become insecure, emotionally bound and volatile. Que clase de inmadurez, madre mia. Anonymous (post preceding this one), I can say with absolute certainty that jealousy is the problem. But it sucks, to be truthful. I have this love/love relationship with Argentina but I cannot stand, rather I cannot tolerate the complex Argentines have with the United States. It is so remarkable because so many Argies are so tremendously anti-American. There is not, nor has there been, a true validating basis for hating another country like that. I am fully aware of the US anti-Soviet policy of the 70s and the junta militar, and let’s not even get into the fact that the Soviets and Cubans were the ones actively trying to spead their idealism in Latina America, but I cannot fathom how people can loathe others so much. I dated one Argie girl a few years ago who said the following after a couple of dates, “Sos bueno, para ser un yanqui de mierda.” The idiocy has no bounds. I suppose we’ll become as loathed as the English with all of those Argentine “los ingleses son piratas” stories and the obsession with the windswept Malvinas/Falklands. What the hell happened? European immigrants go to the US and they are for the most part normal, European immigrants go to Argentina and they become insecure, emotionally bound and volatile. Que clase de inmadurez, madre mia.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.argentinepost.com/2007/12/argentinas-anti-americanism-part-2.html#comment-1178 Anonymous Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:04:29 +0000 http://argentinepost.com/?p=28#comment-1178 american-quebecois, you're dead on. I too get the feeling that all this hatred of the US boils down to jealousy. I've observed that Argentines love to hate anyone they perceive as being 'better' than they are, whether it be financially, aesthetically, morally, socially, or what have you. american-quebecois, you’re dead on. I too get the feeling that all this hatred of the US boils down to jealousy. I’ve observed that Argentines love to hate anyone they perceive as being ‘better’ than they are, whether it be financially, aesthetically, morally, socially, or what have you.

]]> By: un americain-quebecois http://www.argentinepost.com/2007/12/argentinas-anti-americanism-part-2.html#comment-1165 un americain-quebecois Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:24:13 +0000 http://argentinepost.com/?p=28#comment-1165 Anonymous (last person/last post ), you sound and act like a college-age child. And your quote from the Quran, "the man who saves a life, saves mankind" is not part of the canon of Islam, because under the Islamic doctrine of "abrogation" the peaceful verses of Islam written in the earlier part of Mohammed's life were "abrogated," or REPLACED, by the extremely violent verses of Mohammed's later life ("Behead the non-believer (non-muslim)") in the later part of the Quran (when no one in Arabia would convert to his new made-up, super right-wing intolerant religion). Por favor no me vengas con tus cuentas acerca de la paz que se encuentra en la Argentina entre las gentes. Es pura mentira. Yo vivi alla por muchisimo tiempo y estas hablando una basura de chiquillo. Aca al menos fuimos capaz de poner en poder a un presidente mulato, cosa que NUNCA pasara en la Argentina. Pase lo que pase y venga lo que venga, la Argentina seguira siendo un pais racista, y por supuesto anti-estadounidense por CELOS de mi pais (sin justificacion) y un pais sumamente corrupto guiado por mafiosos descarados como se encuentran es la isla de Sicilia o la ciudad de Chicago. Que madures mas. Anonymous (last person/last post ), you sound and act like a college-age child. And your quote from the Quran, “the man who saves a life, saves mankind” is not part of the canon of Islam, because under the Islamic doctrine of “abrogation” the peaceful verses of Islam written in the earlier part of Mohammed’s life were “abrogated,” or REPLACED, by the extremely violent verses of Mohammed’s later life (“Behead the non-believer (non-muslim)”) in the later part of the Quran (when no one in Arabia would convert to his new made-up, super right-wing intolerant religion). Por favor no me vengas con tus cuentas acerca de la paz que se encuentra en la Argentina entre las gentes. Es pura mentira. Yo vivi alla por muchisimo tiempo y estas hablando una basura de chiquillo. Aca al menos fuimos capaz de poner en poder a un presidente mulato, cosa que NUNCA pasara en la Argentina. Pase lo que pase y venga lo que venga, la Argentina seguira siendo un pais racista, y por supuesto anti-estadounidense por CELOS de mi pais (sin justificacion) y un pais sumamente corrupto guiado por mafiosos descarados como se encuentran es la isla de Sicilia o la ciudad de Chicago. Que madures mas.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.argentinepost.com/2007/12/argentinas-anti-americanism-part-2.html#comment-395 Anonymous Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:58:36 +0000 http://argentinepost.com/?p=28#comment-395 1) another thing is that Argentines sometimes lump Americans together with British because of the language and culture. They treat Americans and British as one and the same. No way, man, you are too much!!! 2)Un Americain-Quebecois dijo... I have had it up to here with anti-Americanism. I consider myself a liberal and yet when I travel to Argentina I am compelled to defend my country from several ignorant haters who have this insane jealousy complex with the United States. I'm also tired of your racism, anti-Semitism and anti-Bolivian sentiment. Oh yea? in wich country muslims and jews live togehter with no problem at all? Racism? Anti semitism? Anti bolivian? Dunno, just to use the word "bolita" or some comment? But people here dont have any problem to buy vegetables to the bolivian cholas on the street. Here we use negro affectionate, in your country is an offense that justifies murder, we call the fatty, the skinny, the boli, the paragua, the russian (to jews), and they are just nicknames, nobody takes offense o that. Who were those haters? can you tell a little more? Assholes are everywhere, i met some people from NEW YORK (among others, not rednecks) that were exactly as those people that are asked to pinpoint USA in a map and they put the finger in germany, like those videos that you can find on internet (Are american fools?). For that i wouldnt say that average american is homer simpson, but i was leaded to think so very often. To make it short, Coran doesnt say "The man who saves a life, saves mankind"? I´m Christian by the way. Perhaps the racism anti this and anti that you mentioned is a cultural difference like many usa people get shocked by here until they trully know how things are. 1) another thing is that Argentines sometimes lump Americans together with British because of the language and culture. They treat Americans and British as one and the same.
No way, man, you are too much!!!

2)Un Americain-Quebecois dijo…
I have had it up to here with anti-Americanism. I consider myself a liberal and yet when I travel to Argentina I am compelled to defend my country from several ignorant haters who have this insane jealousy complex with the United States. I’m also tired of your racism, anti-Semitism and anti-Bolivian sentiment.
Oh yea? in wich country muslims and jews live togehter with no problem at all?
Racism? Anti semitism? Anti bolivian?
Dunno, just to use the word “bolita” or some comment? But people here dont have any problem to buy vegetables to the bolivian cholas on the street.
Here we use negro affectionate, in your country is an offense that justifies murder, we call the fatty, the skinny, the boli, the paragua, the russian (to jews), and they are just nicknames, nobody takes offense o that.
Who were those haters? can you tell a little more? Assholes are everywhere, i met some people from NEW YORK (among others, not rednecks) that were exactly as those people that are asked to pinpoint USA in a map and they put the finger in germany, like those videos that you can find on internet (Are american fools?). For that i wouldnt say that average american is homer simpson, but i was leaded to think so very often.
To make it short, Coran doesnt say “The man who saves a life, saves mankind”? I´m Christian by the way.
Perhaps the racism anti this and anti that you mentioned is a cultural difference like many usa people get shocked by here until they trully know how things are.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.argentinepost.com/2007/12/argentinas-anti-americanism-part-2.html#comment-394 Anonymous Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:57:14 +0000 http://argentinepost.com/?p=28#comment-394 This is an old post but I could not resist: Being Anti-American is far too easy these days. Once in a bar in Buenos Aires I had to admit that I rather have Bush as president that that crazy dude from Iran. After being accused of being a soul-selling, raza-traitor, gringo-lovin’, wetback wannabe, I stood my ground and proudly proclaimed that I prefer to wear Marc Jacobs than a nice silk burka. Oh my, the things you gringos make this poor Mexican say. But I’ll get over it, nothing that screaming a couple of insults to Landon Donovan won’t cure. I was not the only one, mind you. I went to a Café Tacuba concert in BAs also and the lead singer defended your traseros from a screaming crowd. Because we know, believe me, we know, that a government is not the same thing as the pueblo. Besides if anyone south of the border is going to bitch about you people it is us, and all those bros from CA who still remember Reagan fondly. Anyway, we secretly heart you, and even if you plaster Canadian flags in your back-pack when you go to Oaxaca, we know that it is you, no matter how Quebecois you claim to be. This is an old post but I could not resist:
Being Anti-American is far too easy these days. Once in a bar in Buenos Aires I had to admit that I rather have Bush as president that that crazy dude from Iran. After being accused of being a soul-selling, raza-traitor, gringo-lovin’, wetback wannabe, I stood my ground and proudly proclaimed that I prefer to wear Marc Jacobs than a nice silk burka. Oh my, the things you gringos make this poor Mexican say. But I’ll get over it, nothing that screaming a couple of insults to Landon Donovan won’t cure. I was not the only one, mind you. I went to a Café Tacuba concert in BAs also and the lead singer defended your traseros from a screaming crowd. Because we know, believe me, we know, that a government is not the same thing as the pueblo. Besides if anyone south of the border is going to bitch about you people it is us, and all those bros from CA who still remember Reagan fondly. Anyway, we secretly heart you, and even if you plaster Canadian flags in your back-pack when you go to Oaxaca, we know that it is you, no matter how Quebecois you claim to be.

]]> By: Un Americain-Quebecois http://www.argentinepost.com/2007/12/argentinas-anti-americanism-part-2.html#comment-96 Un Americain-Quebecois Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:43:00 +0000 http://argentinepost.com/?p=28#comment-96 I have had it up to here with anti-Americanism. I consider myself a liberal and yet when I travel to Argentina I am compelled to defend my country from several ignorant haters who have this insane jealousy complex with the United States. I'm also tired of your racism, anti-Semitism and anti-Bolivian sentiment. I work my butt off to take care of myself and my family, like most of my fellow citizens. I do not eat McDonalds or wear baseball caps. I have a university education. I speak 3 languages. My family is made up of immigrants from many parts of the world, just like many Argentines. It is unfortunate that Argentines cannot succeed like their United States counterparts because of a centuries-old culture of corruption and graft ("n~oquis" anyone?), and demagoguery from the Nazi Peron. You are to blame for your situation. Paren de quejarse de Estados Unidos por el exito que ha tenido. Bush hizo bien con ir a Afganistan. Deben de leer algo sobre el islam y acordarse de lo violento que es si se hace como se escribe. Por supuesto Bush estuvo MUY MAL por ir a Iraq cuando no hacia falta. Pero eso no cambia que ustedes nos odian sin justificacion. Eso de imperio es una porqueria comunista. Aqui vivimos tratando de vivir la vida y criar hijos y querer familia como los demas. I have had it up to here with anti-Americanism. I consider myself a liberal and yet when I travel to Argentina I am compelled to defend my country from several ignorant haters who have this insane jealousy complex with the United States. I’m also tired of your racism, anti-Semitism and anti-Bolivian sentiment. I work my butt off to take care of myself and my family, like most of my fellow citizens. I do not eat McDonalds or wear baseball caps. I have a university education. I speak 3 languages. My family is made up of immigrants from many parts of the world, just like many Argentines. It is unfortunate that Argentines cannot succeed like their United States counterparts because of a centuries-old culture of corruption and graft (“n~oquis” anyone?), and demagoguery from the Nazi Peron. You are to blame for your situation. Paren de quejarse de Estados Unidos por el exito que ha tenido. Bush hizo bien con ir a Afganistan. Deben de leer algo sobre el islam y acordarse de lo violento que es si se hace como se escribe. Por supuesto Bush estuvo MUY MAL por ir a Iraq cuando no hacia falta. Pero eso no cambia que ustedes nos odian sin justificacion. Eso de imperio es una porqueria comunista. Aqui vivimos tratando de vivir la vida y criar hijos y querer familia como los demas.

]]> By: Uncle Remus http://www.argentinepost.com/2007/12/argentinas-anti-americanism-part-2.html#comment-85 Uncle Remus Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:24:00 +0000 http://argentinepost.com/?p=28#comment-85 Remolacha, please tell me where I say it...sorry but I can't find it. I just said that Bush was elected by the americans and we all over the world have to suffer him and that I didn't voted him :-).<br/>Most of the americans did choose Bush, like most of the people from Argentina choose Menem last decade. And I'm not saying people from a country is the GOVERNMENT.<br/><br/>Carlos: would tell me where I say I hate american people? <br/>And sorry for being such "an ignorant" for thinking in a different way from you, Bush would be glad of your thoughts :-) and probably now he is invading my home :-) Remolacha, please tell me where I say it…sorry but I can’t find it. I just said that Bush was elected by the americans and we all over the world have to suffer him and that I didn’t voted him :-) .
Most of the americans did choose Bush, like most of the people from Argentina choose Menem last decade. And I’m not saying people from a country is the GOVERNMENT.

Carlos: would tell me where I say I hate american people?
And sorry for being such “an ignorant” for thinking in a different way from you, Bush would be glad of your thoughts :-) and probably now he is invading my home :-)

]]> By: remolacha http://www.argentinepost.com/2007/12/argentinas-anti-americanism-part-2.html#comment-78 remolacha Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:08:00 +0000 http://argentinepost.com/?p=28#comment-78 to maria and uncle remus, <br/>to say that a nation of people cannot be separated from their government is to say that argentines are to blame for their poor economy, for the military dictatorships that have taken thousands of argentine lives, and for every other negative repercussion argentines have suffered at the hands of its leaders, past and present. After all, you did vote for the people who caused these things to happen, right? And as far as the leaders who seized power, one can argue that voting for a leader who was not strong enough to maintain power is a problem the argentine people brought on themselves. <br/>It is never reasonable to characterize the people of any nation merely by its executive leaders. to maria and uncle remus,
to say that a nation of people cannot be separated from their government is to say that argentines are to blame for their poor economy, for the military dictatorships that have taken thousands of argentine lives, and for every other negative repercussion argentines have suffered at the hands of its leaders, past and present. After all, you did vote for the people who caused these things to happen, right? And as far as the leaders who seized power, one can argue that voting for a leader who was not strong enough to maintain power is a problem the argentine people brought on themselves.
It is never reasonable to characterize the people of any nation merely by its executive leaders.

]]> By: flyfreely http://www.argentinepost.com/2007/12/argentinas-anti-americanism-part-2.html#comment-75 flyfreely Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:46:00 +0000 http://argentinepost.com/?p=28#comment-75 I am thinking that some people may find scientific contributions as evil because they think of them as purely commercial. If you believe modern drugs hurt more than they cure, if you think that cell phones serve little purpose other than cause brain cancer and iPods simple make you deaf at an early age, then I can see why people would think they are bad. Argentinians love their ipods though, and they seem to be very much promodern medicine, so I also wonder where they get this.<br/><br/>Most people in the world separate the american people from the american government, that is mostly true. The type of american that they have contact with determines a lot. There are some countries where only those serious curious travelers go to and they think well of americans. On the other hand countries like western europe who get the average ignorant and arrogant american kid thinks very low of americans... I am thinking that some people may find scientific contributions as evil because they think of them as purely commercial. If you believe modern drugs hurt more than they cure, if you think that cell phones serve little purpose other than cause brain cancer and iPods simple make you deaf at an early age, then I can see why people would think they are bad. Argentinians love their ipods though, and they seem to be very much promodern medicine, so I also wonder where they get this.

Most people in the world separate the american people from the american government, that is mostly true. The type of american that they have contact with determines a lot. There are some countries where only those serious curious travelers go to and they think well of americans. On the other hand countries like western europe who get the average ignorant and arrogant american kid thinks very low of americans…

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