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		<title>By: Luciano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luciano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments on this post are so American self-centered, and totally misinformed. Argentina is setting up a new software/screening system at every point of entry that will be deployed in the next 2 years. 

At the same time, an entry fee that is automatically granted when you arrive to Argentina DOES NOT compare to American visa fees, which are NOT REIMBURSED IF THE VISA IS DENIED.

Why not complaining about the MILLONS OF DOLLARS that are being collected through visa denials from US embassies around the world???

International reciprocity is a common thing around the world. ALL THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES DO NOT CHARGE A SINGLE DIME TO ARGENTINE CITIZENS TO VISIT THEIR COUNTRIES. The same goes for Israel and Japan. Therefore, Argentina does not charge any single dime to all those countries. That is what is called re-ci-pro-ci-ty. 
If you do not like it, please contact your representatives and complain about the United States charging fees in the country that you intend to visit. 

Brasil (and very soon Uruguay and Paraguay) also charges entry fees to nationals that charge Brazilian citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments on this post are so American self-centered, and totally misinformed. Argentina is setting up a new software/screening system at every point of entry that will be deployed in the next 2 years. </p>
<p>At the same time, an entry fee that is automatically granted when you arrive to Argentina DOES NOT compare to American visa fees, which are NOT REIMBURSED IF THE VISA IS DENIED.</p>
<p>Why not complaining about the MILLONS OF DOLLARS that are being collected through visa denials from US embassies around the world???</p>
<p>International reciprocity is a common thing around the world. ALL THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES DO NOT CHARGE A SINGLE DIME TO ARGENTINE CITIZENS TO VISIT THEIR COUNTRIES. The same goes for Israel and Japan. Therefore, Argentina does not charge any single dime to all those countries. That is what is called re-ci-pro-ci-ty.<br />
If you do not like it, please contact your representatives and complain about the United States charging fees in the country that you intend to visit. </p>
<p>Brasil (and very soon Uruguay and Paraguay) also charges entry fees to nationals that charge Brazilian citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Beatrice M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beatrice M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey I was just googling for info about this and came across your post.  You should  update the link at the top of this entry as it points to a 404.
Incorrect link:
http://www.argentinepost.com//2008/2009/12/argentina-to-charge-americans-an-airport-entry-fee.html

Correct link:
http://www.argentinepost.com/2009/12/argentina-to-charge-americans-an-airport-entry-fee.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey I was just googling for info about this and came across your post.  You should  update the link at the top of this entry as it points to a 404.<br />
Incorrect link:<br />
<a href="http://www.argentinepost.com//2008/2009/12/argentina-to-charge-americans-an-airport-entry-fee.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.argentinepost.com//2008/2009/12/argentina-to-charge-americans-an-airport-entry-fee.html</a></p>
<p>Correct link:<br />
<a href="http://www.argentinepost.com/2009/12/argentina-to-charge-americans-an-airport-entry-fee.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.argentinepost.com/2009/12/argentina-to-charge-americans-an-airport-entry-fee.html</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Budget Travel Tips from Pauline Frommer &#8211; Episode 219 &#124; The Amateur Traveler Travel Podcast - best places to travel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 01:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Junior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Junior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with Jose and Viajera. It&#039;s not the money but the principle. I&#039;m from Peru and I would not be in favor of imposing a visa entry fee to American-passport holders into my country. 

Granted, it&#039;s a tit-for-tat situation. You punch me and I&#039;ll punch you back. However, scores of latinos try to get into America intending to overstay their welcome. And like Jose said, I don&#039;t blame them. I might do that myself as well. Who am I to throw the first stone? We&#039;ve got American over-stayers in Peru as well, and we can&#039;t afford to send them back home, so just charge them one dollar for each day they&#039;ve overstayed. And the amount of American over-stayers in Peru is minimal when compared to the number of illegal latinos (or just Peruvians for that matter) in the USA. I&#039;m sure there isn&#039;t a country on earth that welcomes illegal migrants and the USA is trying to control illegal immigration, as any other country would. If we need visas to go to America it&#039;s because we have taken advantage of them and now they&#039;re suspicious of letting us in. We have brought it upon ourselves. 

And yes, I can see where the $131 is going... into some corrupted politician&#039;s pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Jose and Viajera. It&#8217;s not the money but the principle. I&#8217;m from Peru and I would not be in favor of imposing a visa entry fee to American-passport holders into my country. </p>
<p>Granted, it&#8217;s a tit-for-tat situation. You punch me and I&#8217;ll punch you back. However, scores of latinos try to get into America intending to overstay their welcome. And like Jose said, I don&#8217;t blame them. I might do that myself as well. Who am I to throw the first stone? We&#8217;ve got American over-stayers in Peru as well, and we can&#8217;t afford to send them back home, so just charge them one dollar for each day they&#8217;ve overstayed. And the amount of American over-stayers in Peru is minimal when compared to the number of illegal latinos (or just Peruvians for that matter) in the USA. I&#8217;m sure there isn&#8217;t a country on earth that welcomes illegal migrants and the USA is trying to control illegal immigration, as any other country would. If we need visas to go to America it&#8217;s because we have taken advantage of them and now they&#8217;re suspicious of letting us in. We have brought it upon ourselves. </p>
<p>And yes, I can see where the $131 is going&#8230; into some corrupted politician&#8217;s pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: viajera</title>
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		<dc:creator>viajera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 02:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>completely agree with Jose!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: viajera</title>
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		<dc:creator>viajera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 02:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently traveled to Chile on a repeat visit and was planning on visiting Mendoza for a weekend. I have been to Bs As twice and was hoping to finally cross the boarder and visit Mendoza. However the new reciprocity tax changed my mind. I would rather stay in Chile and drink a whole lot of great wine on that side of the boader with the cash than spend 131 to drink wine on the other side. I find the whole &quot;we are going to get even with Americans&quot; thing offensive! .... It is not the money, it is the principle! And what control do I have as a US citizen to control my country&#039;s policy on visas... um probably about zero! The Argentine&#039;s want the American money they should let the tourists bring in that money and spend it in local businesses not pump the money into some politicians account! The people need the money not the government!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently traveled to Chile on a repeat visit and was planning on visiting Mendoza for a weekend. I have been to Bs As twice and was hoping to finally cross the boarder and visit Mendoza. However the new reciprocity tax changed my mind. I would rather stay in Chile and drink a whole lot of great wine on that side of the boader with the cash than spend 131 to drink wine on the other side. I find the whole &#8220;we are going to get even with Americans&#8221; thing offensive! &#8230;. It is not the money, it is the principle! And what control do I have as a US citizen to control my country&#8217;s policy on visas&#8230; um probably about zero! The Argentine&#8217;s want the American money they should let the tourists bring in that money and spend it in local businesses not pump the money into some politicians account! The people need the money not the government!</p>
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		<title>By: jose arellano</title>
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		<dc:creator>jose arellano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The arguments in favor of the reciprocity fee are idiotic. Are you telling me that the cost of Argentina to screen people that will not overstay and do not want to harm that country is $131.00 per person. That’s BS.

My wife and I canceled our trip to Argentina. We are both from Central America originally but did not want to fork the money for our other passports that only last 5 years. We were stuck as Americans and decided to cancel everything before giving our money away to some populist measure.

What are the $131 going to be use for????? At least with the USA, we know is covering the bureaucratic and administrative fees of screening visitors. Why should US residents subsidize that expense. It makes sense that visitor forks it.

I bet you it’s just some corrupt populist measure meant to appease “el pueblo” and fatten up some politicians.

What do they think that the few countries that are charged are going to change their policies????? Like they are not thousands of Brazilians and Argentinians that do not overstay in Canada and the US. I don’t blame them. I would too. What I am criticizing is the lack of logic.

ONE CHARGE SERVES A PURPOSE. THE OTHER ONE IS JUST A TANTRUM. They do not charge citizens of countries that most do not overstay their visits….

IDIOTIC and COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. We’ll stick to Peru and Colombia, warmer people, less arrogant, and with less “infulas de grandeza.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The arguments in favor of the reciprocity fee are idiotic. Are you telling me that the cost of Argentina to screen people that will not overstay and do not want to harm that country is $131.00 per person. That’s BS.</p>
<p>My wife and I canceled our trip to Argentina. We are both from Central America originally but did not want to fork the money for our other passports that only last 5 years. We were stuck as Americans and decided to cancel everything before giving our money away to some populist measure.</p>
<p>What are the $131 going to be use for????? At least with the USA, we know is covering the bureaucratic and administrative fees of screening visitors. Why should US residents subsidize that expense. It makes sense that visitor forks it.</p>
<p>I bet you it’s just some corrupt populist measure meant to appease “el pueblo” and fatten up some politicians.</p>
<p>What do they think that the few countries that are charged are going to change their policies????? Like they are not thousands of Brazilians and Argentinians that do not overstay in Canada and the US. I don’t blame them. I would too. What I am criticizing is the lack of logic.</p>
<p>ONE CHARGE SERVES A PURPOSE. THE OTHER ONE IS JUST A TANTRUM. They do not charge citizens of countries that most do not overstay their visits….</p>
<p>IDIOTIC and COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. We’ll stick to Peru and Colombia, warmer people, less arrogant, and with less “infulas de grandeza.”</p>
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		<title>By: Justinianclevo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justinianclevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, Brazil has recently relaxed the 90 day initiation, which is progress.

My understanding of the new arrival tax is that it is valid for ten years. I haven&#039;t been able to confirm if this is ten years, tied to the specific passport or ten years straight up, regardless of passport expiration, unlike Chile.

 As an airline employee (ie able to travel often, and cheaply) and a self professed cheapskate: we have visited BsAs annually, and have very much enjoyed it, generally renting an apartment for a good part of a month each year. While our $ may not be specifically fealt in the tourist areas, we do do a fair spending in barrio Norte grocery shops and other local businesses and with a certain eye doctor, etc.

My family has recently grown.. And we had planned on continuing our annual visits, but the thought of an additional $500-700 on arrival has me pondering alternate ciies. I&#039;d hate to write off BsAs, but that&#039;s the sort of cash that will get us an additional weeks lodging in Lima, or elsewhere... I don&#039;t know.
 

My family has grown, so there are two additional arrival fees due.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, Brazil has recently relaxed the 90 day initiation, which is progress.</p>
<p>My understanding of the new arrival tax is that it is valid for ten years. I haven&#8217;t been able to confirm if this is ten years, tied to the specific passport or ten years straight up, regardless of passport expiration, unlike Chile.</p>
<p> As an airline employee (ie able to travel often, and cheaply) and a self professed cheapskate: we have visited BsAs annually, and have very much enjoyed it, generally renting an apartment for a good part of a month each year. While our $ may not be specifically fealt in the tourist areas, we do do a fair spending in barrio Norte grocery shops and other local businesses and with a certain eye doctor, etc.</p>
<p>My family has recently grown.. And we had planned on continuing our annual visits, but the thought of an additional $500-700 on arrival has me pondering alternate ciies. I&#8217;d hate to write off BsAs, but that&#8217;s the sort of cash that will get us an additional weeks lodging in Lima, or elsewhere&#8230; I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>My family has grown, so there are two additional arrival fees due.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I visit Argentina every year at least once for at least a two month period.  We used to do the same type of visit to Brasil, until the late 70&#039;s when Brasil made it an awful effort to acquire a toursit visa which had to be utilized within 90 days or it expired!  Then we switched to Chile, who followed suit with collecting the fee at the airport without tourists even being forewarned.  Chile applied the fee to the entire valid length of one&#039;s visa (ie 10 years or less).  The one and ONLY place the fee was collected was at the airport, when we arrived several times via cruise ship, no fee was charged.  Now here comes Argentina with her version of a tourist fee, completely and totaly a smoke and mirrors situation.  What a country decides to do within it&#039;s borders is certainly their choice, however one would hope for some consistency, but after all this is Argentina, the land of double and triple standards regarding the fleecing of the golden goose, tourism.  I can tollerate higher pricing (double standard airfares domestically, hotels, etc.) but they&#039;ve gone too far with this one.  It is petty, but one has to draw a mark in the sand at some point, we arrived Dec 3rd and depart Feb 3, without visiting Uruguay (due to the $134 Argentine Visa Fee) costing Buquebus two first class high speed boat fares.  With sadness, we won&#039;t return to Argentina, this is one line I will not cross !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I visit Argentina every year at least once for at least a two month period.  We used to do the same type of visit to Brasil, until the late 70&#8242;s when Brasil made it an awful effort to acquire a toursit visa which had to be utilized within 90 days or it expired!  Then we switched to Chile, who followed suit with collecting the fee at the airport without tourists even being forewarned.  Chile applied the fee to the entire valid length of one&#8217;s visa (ie 10 years or less).  The one and ONLY place the fee was collected was at the airport, when we arrived several times via cruise ship, no fee was charged.  Now here comes Argentina with her version of a tourist fee, completely and totaly a smoke and mirrors situation.  What a country decides to do within it&#8217;s borders is certainly their choice, however one would hope for some consistency, but after all this is Argentina, the land of double and triple standards regarding the fleecing of the golden goose, tourism.  I can tollerate higher pricing (double standard airfares domestically, hotels, etc.) but they&#8217;ve gone too far with this one.  It is petty, but one has to draw a mark in the sand at some point, we arrived Dec 3rd and depart Feb 3, without visiting Uruguay (due to the $134 Argentine Visa Fee) costing Buquebus two first class high speed boat fares.  With sadness, we won&#8217;t return to Argentina, this is one line I will not cross !!!</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, I do think it&#039;s unfair that we charge an unrefundable fee (I believe it&#039;s the cost to process the application).  I think this should be changed and hopefully it will.  We lose economically from illegal immigration about as much as we gain from tourism, so it&#039;s not as straight forward as making money from tourism for us.  

But  for Argentina, I think it&#039;s more important to look at the bigger picture, employment levels, and the long term effects of such a policy.  A small change like this could impact tourism by 15% over time (lost visitors and a little less spending while there) which would cause the Argentine economy to lose more than the $40 million gained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, I do think it&#8217;s unfair that we charge an unrefundable fee (I believe it&#8217;s the cost to process the application).  I think this should be changed and hopefully it will.  We lose economically from illegal immigration about as much as we gain from tourism, so it&#8217;s not as straight forward as making money from tourism for us.  </p>
<p>But  for Argentina, I think it&#8217;s more important to look at the bigger picture, employment levels, and the long term effects of such a policy.  A small change like this could impact tourism by 15% over time (lost visitors and a little less spending while there) which would cause the Argentine economy to lose more than the $40 million gained.</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with &quot;A keller&quot; it&#039;s an easy way to get taxes without any political consequences.   However, I think it is short-sighted and they are going to lose a lot of tourism because of &quot;you pull my hair I&#039;ll pull yours&quot; mentality.   I have been saying for years how smart the Argentinians are for not charging a fee, b/c of the positive effects on tourism.  There is a reason I&#039;ve never been to Chile and don&#039;t ever plan to, $100.  It&#039;s seems like a small deal but it&#039;s a big world and a lot of options.  I&#039;m on my third trip to Argentina in 4 years and I was always impressed at how easy the visa situation is.  Sure we charge you guys and it sucks, but would you rather have an unemployment at 10%+.    I know that I would like to invite friends of mine to Buenos Aires but they are not going to want to visit for a week if they have to pay an extra $100.  

Hey Alan what&#039;s you tour website?  I though your comments were good too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with &#8220;A keller&#8221; it&#8217;s an easy way to get taxes without any political consequences.   However, I think it is short-sighted and they are going to lose a lot of tourism because of &#8220;you pull my hair I&#8217;ll pull yours&#8221; mentality.   I have been saying for years how smart the Argentinians are for not charging a fee, b/c of the positive effects on tourism.  There is a reason I&#8217;ve never been to Chile and don&#8217;t ever plan to, $100.  It&#8217;s seems like a small deal but it&#8217;s a big world and a lot of options.  I&#8217;m on my third trip to Argentina in 4 years and I was always impressed at how easy the visa situation is.  Sure we charge you guys and it sucks, but would you rather have an unemployment at 10%+.    I know that I would like to invite friends of mine to Buenos Aires but they are not going to want to visit for a week if they have to pay an extra $100.  </p>
<p>Hey Alan what&#8217;s you tour website?  I though your comments were good too.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Locke Hobbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Locke Hobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taos,

Have you heard any updates on how exactly this is going to be implemented? Will they charge it only at Ezeiza or at every border crossing from La Quiaca to Ushuaia? Will it be good fro 5 or 10 years or one-off?

Thanks!!
Thomas</description>
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<p>Have you heard any updates on how exactly this is going to be implemented? Will they charge it only at Ezeiza or at every border crossing from La Quiaca to Ushuaia? Will it be good fro 5 or 10 years or one-off?</p>
<p>Thanks!!<br />
Thomas</p>
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