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		<dc:creator>South America on the cheap &#124; &#124; An Aussie and a Colombian heading North to an undetermined somewhere &#124; &#124; Trave advice as we wander Argentina &#124; &#124; Next stop Bolivia</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] opportunities for teachers in BA seems pathetic. I have applied for every job available, pushed my resume via email to every language school; and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am grateful at  San Patrick day.
All my jobs started on a San Patrick day.
No doubt about it. GREEN IS GOOD LUCK
San Patrick always gave me a job on his day.
God bless America and let make those ones sick....
the ones waiting to see America  &quot;caerse en pedazos....&quot;
It won&#039;t happen

Happy SAN PATRICK DAY.

JOSSIE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am grateful at  San Patrick day.<br />
All my jobs started on a San Patrick day.<br />
No doubt about it. GREEN IS GOOD LUCK<br />
San Patrick always gave me a job on his day.<br />
God bless America and let make those ones sick&#8230;.<br />
the ones waiting to see America  &#8220;caerse en pedazos&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
It won&#8217;t happen</p>
<p>Happy SAN PATRICK DAY.</p>
<p>JOSSIE</p>
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		<title>By: taos</title>
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		<dc:creator>taos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting commentary and feedback, Evie.
Thanks very much.
Taos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting commentary and feedback, Evie.<br />
Thanks very much.<br />
Taos</p>
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		<title>By: Evie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My partner owns a company based in Buenos Aires, and I was suprised to learn from him that they require photos with their resumes.  So, what, you choose who you want to interview based on their looks, I asked.  The answer wasn&#039;t so simple.  On the one hand, he has no problem hiring women, older people, homosexuals, people of (darker) color.  On the other hand, an overweight person has one big, fat strike against him or her.  This overweight person is sending the message &quot;I don&#039;t care about how I look.  I don&#039;t take care of myself.&quot;  

Now, in the States, I have come across some government employees of unusual size who seem to be adequately doing their job.  I don&#039;t think one&#039;s size would affect doing data entry, accounting, or any time of desk job duty.  However, if this person has a sales position, or has any kind of position dealing with the public,  he&#039;d x them off the list.  

If you&#039;re studying, your chances of getting a job, at least in my partner&#039;s company, are reduced because of the time off you would probably need to study, take exams, etc.  Sucks because I worked during college and beyond, and I didn&#039;t have a problem balancing work and school.  But a fulltime job here would probably not be possible.   

If you&#039;re married or unmarried, your chances are the same.  If you&#039;re married with children, chances are you&#039;d want to take care of your family, so you&#039;d be more likely to stick with your job.  If you&#039;re unmarried, you&#039;d have more time to work.  It seems as if it&#039;s pretty equal in this respect.  

A note about the young and beautiful people:  In my experience living here, beauty does not necessarily indicate an ability to work well.  Many of the young and beautiful (there are some fabulous sales people here, but...there are many exceptions.  We eat out a LOT.) are usually talking amongst themselves intead of helping their customers.  Fine, they&#039;re nice to look at, but their beauty isn&#039;t going to earn them a tip or a sale.  What my parter&#039;s hiring staff looks for is not necessarily someone who is beautiful (though that is certainly a PLUS); rather, they look for self-respect that is reflected in the way a prospective employee grooms him/herself.  

The company will fire people who are turning up the sexual heat in the company, though.  Not to say that screwing your co-worker is verboten (it&#039;s like a freaking telenovela sometimes).  It&#039;s only when it interferes with how the company runs.  If a man is sleeping with two women in the same department, for example, more than likely, human resources will sit down to have a little chat.  Or if a woman is being overly coqueta and making the male employees salivate and the female employees pissed, that&#039;s enough of a reason to have a talk.  

Now, dealing with sexual harrassment is an issue that still needs work.  Women seem to like male attention, like to be looked at, but when does it cross the line?  And would the guy get fired for this kind of behavior?  Or would he just get his hands slapped?  

As far as INADI is concerned, who knows?  I NEVER thought they&#039;d be able to ban smoking in milongas and restaurants, but they did.  I was thrilled!  So, maybe it will go through.  You never know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My partner owns a company based in Buenos Aires, and I was suprised to learn from him that they require photos with their resumes.  So, what, you choose who you want to interview based on their looks, I asked.  The answer wasn&#8217;t so simple.  On the one hand, he has no problem hiring women, older people, homosexuals, people of (darker) color.  On the other hand, an overweight person has one big, fat strike against him or her.  This overweight person is sending the message &#8220;I don&#8217;t care about how I look.  I don&#8217;t take care of myself.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Now, in the States, I have come across some government employees of unusual size who seem to be adequately doing their job.  I don&#8217;t think one&#8217;s size would affect doing data entry, accounting, or any time of desk job duty.  However, if this person has a sales position, or has any kind of position dealing with the public,  he&#8217;d x them off the list.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re studying, your chances of getting a job, at least in my partner&#8217;s company, are reduced because of the time off you would probably need to study, take exams, etc.  Sucks because I worked during college and beyond, and I didn&#8217;t have a problem balancing work and school.  But a fulltime job here would probably not be possible.   </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re married or unmarried, your chances are the same.  If you&#8217;re married with children, chances are you&#8217;d want to take care of your family, so you&#8217;d be more likely to stick with your job.  If you&#8217;re unmarried, you&#8217;d have more time to work.  It seems as if it&#8217;s pretty equal in this respect.  </p>
<p>A note about the young and beautiful people:  In my experience living here, beauty does not necessarily indicate an ability to work well.  Many of the young and beautiful (there are some fabulous sales people here, but&#8230;there are many exceptions.  We eat out a LOT.) are usually talking amongst themselves intead of helping their customers.  Fine, they&#8217;re nice to look at, but their beauty isn&#8217;t going to earn them a tip or a sale.  What my parter&#8217;s hiring staff looks for is not necessarily someone who is beautiful (though that is certainly a PLUS); rather, they look for self-respect that is reflected in the way a prospective employee grooms him/herself.  </p>
<p>The company will fire people who are turning up the sexual heat in the company, though.  Not to say that screwing your co-worker is verboten (it&#8217;s like a freaking telenovela sometimes).  It&#8217;s only when it interferes with how the company runs.  If a man is sleeping with two women in the same department, for example, more than likely, human resources will sit down to have a little chat.  Or if a woman is being overly coqueta and making the male employees salivate and the female employees pissed, that&#8217;s enough of a reason to have a talk.  </p>
<p>Now, dealing with sexual harrassment is an issue that still needs work.  Women seem to like male attention, like to be looked at, but when does it cross the line?  And would the guy get fired for this kind of behavior?  Or would he just get his hands slapped?  </p>
<p>As far as INADI is concerned, who knows?  I NEVER thought they&#8217;d be able to ban smoking in milongas and restaurants, but they did.  I was thrilled!  So, maybe it will go through.  You never know.</p>
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		<title>By: taos</title>
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		<dc:creator>taos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tomas,
It&#039;s neither half empty or half full in this case. I work for an American company and haven&#039;t had to face any of the challenges that many people face in the local job market. My hope is that with more and more people talking about this, the discrimination will become unacceptable at some point. The sooner the better. It benefits nobody. London is amazing. I worked there years ago and loved it. Enjoy it.
Cheers,
Taos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tomas,<br />
It&#8217;s neither half empty or half full in this case. I work for an American company and haven&#8217;t had to face any of the challenges that many people face in the local job market. My hope is that with more and more people talking about this, the discrimination will become unacceptable at some point. The sooner the better. It benefits nobody. London is amazing. I worked there years ago and loved it. Enjoy it.<br />
Cheers,<br />
Taos</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas Hein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas Hein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am Argentine and have been living two years in Copenhagen, Denmark.  I have suffered wage discrimination over there, even though I have a Danish citizenship but don&#039;t speak the language.  In the kind of work I did it wasn&#039;t necessary to speak, even so my salary was les than that of a Dane.  Anyway, I don&#039;t complain, I had good working conditions and was treated as an equal--  I now live in London and am a student.  London is a much more cosmopolitan city that Buenos Aires or Copenhagen might be, and as much flaws there might be, the integration system and principle of non-discrimination works fine.
Is the glass half full or half empty to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Argentine and have been living two years in Copenhagen, Denmark.  I have suffered wage discrimination over there, even though I have a Danish citizenship but don&#8217;t speak the language.  In the kind of work I did it wasn&#8217;t necessary to speak, even so my salary was les than that of a Dane.  Anyway, I don&#8217;t complain, I had good working conditions and was treated as an equal&#8211;  I now live in London and am a student.  London is a much more cosmopolitan city that Buenos Aires or Copenhagen might be, and as much flaws there might be, the integration system and principle of non-discrimination works fine.<br />
Is the glass half full or half empty to you?</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, even if I&#039;m a typical &quot;argie&quot; I&#039;d like to underline that it happens the same in countries such as Italy, where i presently live. From my point fo view, italians grow up with the culture of &quot;if it is beauty, it is ok&quot;, and it does not matter if you&#039;re more intelligent or prepared than the other one for a job, if the other is good-looking (or at least more than you), the job is his/her. And no comment about &quot;friendships&quot; within the company.... then you can be a complete unuseful person..but you&#039;re in.
Many of our attitudes as argentinians, come from our italian parents. At least 45% of the argentinian population has its origin in Italy. I&#039;m not saying that Italian are responsible for the job discrimination in argentina, but it could be an interesting point to compare and realize how similar are both situations in both countries, and maybe to conclude that the italian beautiness heritage has some kind of relationship with our typical argie attitudes, not just regarding job discrimination, but discrimination in general.
Ps: one of the problems that italian women has to face is, is you&#039;re over 30, you&#039;re a &quot;potential mother&quot;, then no one wants to hire you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, even if I&#8217;m a typical &#8220;argie&#8221; I&#8217;d like to underline that it happens the same in countries such as Italy, where i presently live. From my point fo view, italians grow up with the culture of &#8220;if it is beauty, it is ok&#8221;, and it does not matter if you&#8217;re more intelligent or prepared than the other one for a job, if the other is good-looking (or at least more than you), the job is his/her. And no comment about &#8220;friendships&#8221; within the company&#8230;. then you can be a complete unuseful person..but you&#8217;re in.<br />
Many of our attitudes as argentinians, come from our italian parents. At least 45% of the argentinian population has its origin in Italy. I&#8217;m not saying that Italian are responsible for the job discrimination in argentina, but it could be an interesting point to compare and realize how similar are both situations in both countries, and maybe to conclude that the italian beautiness heritage has some kind of relationship with our typical argie attitudes, not just regarding job discrimination, but discrimination in general.<br />
Ps: one of the problems that italian women has to face is, is you&#8217;re over 30, you&#8217;re a &#8220;potential mother&#8221;, then no one wants to hire you.</p>
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		<title>By: taos</title>
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		<dc:creator>taos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cee,
Discrimination happens in every country and in every society. But at least it&#039;s illegal in many places. In the U.S. it&#039;s illegal even for an employer to ask a job candidate if he or she is married. These kind of discriminatory ads have been widespread since at least 1995, when I first arrived and noticed them. Hopefully things will change for the better.
Many thanks for your feedback,
Taos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cee,<br />
Discrimination happens in every country and in every society. But at least it&#8217;s illegal in many places. In the U.S. it&#8217;s illegal even for an employer to ask a job candidate if he or she is married. These kind of discriminatory ads have been widespread since at least 1995, when I first arrived and noticed them. Hopefully things will change for the better.<br />
Many thanks for your feedback,<br />
Taos</p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been going on for a couple of years now and I don&#039;t presume it only happens here. There&#039;s not only discrimination regarding gender, age, marital status and physical appearance but also regarding paychecks. 
Every single job has its own specifications. For example, walk into any given clothing store and you&#039;ll find that all employees are extremely good looking. Receptionists are always young and beautiful women.  Women with children are a nuisance and they represent more of a problem than an asset. People over their 40s are deemed as OLD.

I really don&#039;t care about statistics, as an Argentine I&#039;ve come to the conclusion that all they do is talk for the sake of pretending to care. In a month no one will remember about it (and if they do, they should as well try to fix the status of those employed in negro).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been going on for a couple of years now and I don&#8217;t presume it only happens here. There&#8217;s not only discrimination regarding gender, age, marital status and physical appearance but also regarding paychecks.<br />
Every single job has its own specifications. For example, walk into any given clothing store and you&#8217;ll find that all employees are extremely good looking. Receptionists are always young and beautiful women.  Women with children are a nuisance and they represent more of a problem than an asset. People over their 40s are deemed as OLD.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t care about statistics, as an Argentine I&#8217;ve come to the conclusion that all they do is talk for the sake of pretending to care. In a month no one will remember about it (and if they do, they should as well try to fix the status of those employed in negro).</p>
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		<title>By: Richard G. Yeron, M.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard G. Yeron, M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 01:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I served as commissioner for the Human Relations Commission in my county in Maryland. It is well accepted practice here, in the USA, that you should not discriminate based on materials owned, age, race, gender, religion, and based on disabilities. Included to this list has been added sexual orientation in some counties and states. Although I have a difficult time telling somebody&#039;s sexual orientation unless they want to make it obvious and flaunt it to me I voted this last one down.
I believe comparing any of the various Holocausts that have occurred thorughout the history of humankind; whether we hear about one more than another; or comparing what Black Americans have endured during 400 years of slavery to let&#039;s say sexual orientation bias or discrimination, in my humble opinion is perverse to say the least!

In addition, I believe a quandry presents itself, if we are going to use American ethics as the &quot;Gold Standard.&quot; All we have to do is look at our egocentricism in our repeated interventions in Latin America and our own history with slaves and conclude we are not the best die to cast for equality, fairness and righteousness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I served as commissioner for the Human Relations Commission in my county in Maryland. It is well accepted practice here, in the USA, that you should not discriminate based on materials owned, age, race, gender, religion, and based on disabilities. Included to this list has been added sexual orientation in some counties and states. Although I have a difficult time telling somebody&#8217;s sexual orientation unless they want to make it obvious and flaunt it to me I voted this last one down.<br />
I believe comparing any of the various Holocausts that have occurred thorughout the history of humankind; whether we hear about one more than another; or comparing what Black Americans have endured during 400 years of slavery to let&#8217;s say sexual orientation bias or discrimination, in my humble opinion is perverse to say the least!</p>
<p>In addition, I believe a quandry presents itself, if we are going to use American ethics as the &#8220;Gold Standard.&#8221; All we have to do is look at our egocentricism in our repeated interventions in Latin America and our own history with slaves and conclude we are not the best die to cast for equality, fairness and righteousness.</p>
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		<title>By: taos</title>
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		<dc:creator>taos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point, Matias. Many thanks. I&#039;ll check with INADI to see if I can get more data and update the post. Taos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point, Matias. Many thanks. I&#8217;ll check with INADI to see if I can get more data and update the post. Taos</p>
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		<title>By: taos</title>
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		<dc:creator>taos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey anon,
If you get a chance, post some those links here so everyone can see them. 
Cheers,
Taos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey anon,<br />
If you get a chance, post some those links here so everyone can see them.<br />
Cheers,<br />
Taos</p>
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