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Cristina & Obama Hug at G20 Meeting in Pittsburgh

September 25th, 2009 | Categoría: Politics

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CFK Obama*Photo of Cristina Fernández de Kirchner and Barack Obama at Friday’s G20 meeting in Pittsburgh.

It’s long been reported that President Cristina Fernández has been seeking – unsuccessfully, so far – a one-on-one meeting with U.S. President Barack Obama.

While Obama has met with regional leaders like Lula in Brazil and Bachelet in Chile, he has yet to sit down with Fernández.

There are reasons for this.

Among other things, the successive Kirchner administrations have trashed U.S. policies and American personalities on multiple occasions.

In 2007, former president Néstor Kirchner invited Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez – long a declared enemy of U.S. interests – to hold an anti-American rally in Argentina as former U.S. President George W. Bush was visiting neighboring Montevideo for a meeting with Uruguayan President Tabare Vazquez.

Chávez is the same Kirchner ally who previously had given a speech at the United Nations that was extremely critical of Bush. As CNN noted at the time:

“The devil came here yesterday,” Chavez said, referring to Bush, who addressed the world body during its annual meeting. “And it smells of sulfur still today.”

Despite these comments, Kirchner gave Chávez an even bigger podium from which to denounce the U.S. He gave Chávez an entire stadium to do so. With Kirchner’s help, Chávez filled the stadium with anti-American zealots.

Say what you will about American foreign policy at the time, giving Chávez such a podium was hardly the gesture of a seasoned statesman who was concerned about improving relations with the U.S.

Before all of this, in 2005, there was also a Summit of the Americas meeting that turned out to be something of a diplomatic disaster for the American president. While at the Summit, Bush watched his goal of creating a hemispheric-wide free trade agreement go down the tubes amid opposition from Kirchner and other leaders.

The goal, and the American government’s means of achieving it, may or may not have been smartly pursued.

Regardless, U.S. diplomats partly blamed Kirchner for his indifference – and even outright antagonism – toward the Bush administration and its goals at the summit.

Bush left the summit in part furious and in part perplexed. He was perplexed because he couldn’t figure out Kirchner or his motives. As I noted back in April, in a meeting with another regional president during the summit, Bush asked his counterpart why Kirchner was “so hard to deal with.” The other president, who the Kirchners have long considered an ally, told Bush that Kirchner “is like an adolescent.”

Bush and, perhaps more importantly, a host of American officials left the summit with a negative view of the Kirchners. The whole experience left an ugly taste in the mouths of U.S. diplomats, some of whom still follow the region and the Kirchners.

State Department officials have long memories. Most State Department officials are career civil servants who remain in office long after elected officials come and go. This gives a certain continuity and institutional memory to the American foreign policy establishment.

It also means that slights against one president are not easily forgotten or discarded by his successors.

Of course, the U.S. has a new president in Obama. His style and aims are in some ways markedly different from those of his predecessor. But that doesn’t mean he’s unaware of how the previous Kirchner administration treated the previous U.S. president.

Moreover, the story doesn’t end here. Shortly after Fernández took office in late 2007, she found herself in the middle of a thorny scandal involving a suitcase full of cash brought into Argentina by a shady Venezuelan character, Guido Antonini Wilson.

Wilson smuggled around $800,000 in cash into the country on a private plane chartered by the Argentine government. The plane carried both Argentine and Venezuelan officials close to the Kirchners. The cash was allegedly destined to help finance Fernández’s Victory Front Party, a charge Fernández has denied.

Witnesses have since testified that Wilson visited the Casa Rosada even after some of the cash had been impounded by airport officials. From every possible angle, the scandal looked bad for Argentina’s president.

Fernández reacted not by addressing the facts, but by blaming the U.S. for “trash operations” aimed at destabilizing her government. While this reaction may have been savvy domestically, her accusations didn’t go over well with U.S. officials who had hoped her administration would be friendlier than that of her predecessor.

Meanwhile, Fernández’s exceptionally close and ongoing relationship with Chávez continues to perplex some U.S. officials, even as the Argentine government has sought to persuade U.S. diplomats that it’s easier to contain Chávez by being his friend than by being his enemy.

Whatever the case, nobody in the U.S. foreign policy establishment has forgotten that the Kirchners have sometimes been hostile – even if only verbally – to U.S. interests in the region. And that’s not going to change simply because of a photo-op and a smile.

As a reader of this article wisely pointed out (you can see his comments below), Argentine officials too have long memories of the past. And not all of these memories of the U.S. and its actions here, or elsewhere in Latin America, are positive.

And yet Obama himself, more than any other American president, has acknowledged this openly.

Fernández has repeatedly called on Argentines to remember what happened in Argentina in the 1970s and 1980s during the military dictatorship. She and her husband also have repeatedly called on Argentines to remember Argentina’s past failures and the reasons for them, both foreign and domestic. Her focus, frequently, has been on the past and its wrongdoings.

While this call to remember the past isn’t in itself a bad thing, there may be some sense in which the Obama administration – which is constantly seeking to move U.S. policy into the future  - may be somewhat resistant to a president whose focus often seems to be on the past.

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14 Comments

Marc d'Entremont says:

Please keep in mind that any democratic Argentine government may also have a “long memory” of the USA’s warm support for past dictators. Remember the State visit by the Generals when they were warmly received by Reagan while they were killing Argentines at home. The CIA has a long history of “destabilizing” elected governments in South America. As an American who has traveled extensively in Argentina, and currently writing on its culture and food, I believe President Obama needs to prove to Argentina that his policies will support democracy and fair economic development in South America.

taos says:

Hi Marc,
That’s an excellent point and absolutely true.
Thanks for the comment,
Taos

rmartin says:

Who need who more? Does the U.S. need Argentina? Not really. Argentina is just a small blip on the screen. Does Argentina need the U.S.? They want investment don’t they? They want to export don’t they? They want American tourism don’t they? A bit silly to bite the hand that literally feeds you.

Alfonso says:

Martin.
Argentina needs investments but it is better to get it from rising economies of China, India, Brazil and S Africa. We do not expect to get anything from US as we kicked them out well 4 years ago. Besides US doesn’t have money to take care of its own people and is already sitting on its knees begging China, India and Japan to keep buying their security bonds, and not convert their huge $’s in to Euro or any other valuable currency.
Seems like you forget or are blind to see, what a mess your country is in, and you do not still seem to realize that how under you are going. Welcome to the third world in next 10 years. May be not you, but your next generation is certainly going to experience this.

Fernandous says:

Argentina , doesn’t need anyone ,is a natural rich country (granero del mundo) the lobbys are take advantage from so lon and the country still alive

Latam Observer says:

i think you are being unfair to the Ks. who is the US to tell Argentina it cannot have relations with Venezuela especially given all the oil it imports from Chavez and the fact that it underwrites much of the Bolivarian Revolution, and always has.

Argentina has numerous commercial interest in Venezuela, and the Ks as head of Argentina have an obligation to push those forward in the interest of the country. That this has lead to much corruption has to be mentioned, but is another matter. The fact is the US has no moral ground to tell Argentina or any other Latam country to not do business with or pal around with Chavez. the stadium thing was a bit much, was deliberately provocative but i just was not that affected by it.

At the same time, the Ks have shown that they are not Chavez twins, specifically by their stance on Iran/AMIA. perhaps its ironic but for as much as Washington loved Menem, he’s the one who let AMIA happen and totally bungled it.

Cristina also made an attempt at least to mediate between the Venezuelan Jewish community and Chavez given the charges of anti-semitism in his government.

Also i dont think Cristina intended to move that close towards Chavez when she was first elected. If you look at her body language when she was with him, pre-December, 2007, i never sensed great affection. For Evo Morales yes, but not for Chavez. That all changed after the Antonini Wilson scandal. But c’mon,the US largely bungled that – indicting the guys in Miami the day after Cristina was inaugurated? that was a bit much. totally incompetent on washington/miami’s part. I dont think Cristina should be criticized for getting pissed. who among us wouldn’t be?

i think at the end of the day, the thing that isolates the Ks the most is that neither of them really gives a damn about foreign relations. they are just not interested and do not care at all how Argentina is perceived in the world. Cristina gave the impression that she would be when she was first elected, but has proven to be almost identical to Nestor. She lacks grace, tact, and diplomacy as well as basic knowledge about the world. But the Ks only really care about domestic politics and doing whatever they need to grow or maintain their power in Argentina. Foreign policy to them is only important to the extent it can help them achieve that goal. I think that’s why you are not going to see a great deal of initiave on their part in improving relations with the US.

taos says:

Latam Observer,

Many thanks for your insightful comments. They are in many ways well founded. The two parts I’d take issue with would be these:

1) You’re saying that Menem “let AMIA happen.” As far as i know, that’s not fair. He may indeed have bungled it afterwards, but I’ve never seen any reason to think he knew it was going to happen and let happen anyway. 2) On the Wilson mess, it seems dirty from every angle, but I don’t know of any credible reason top think it U.S. intelligence that created that mess. This was Argentina and Venezuela from the beginning, and for Fernández to blame it on the US was little more, it seems to me, than a mean of distracting attention and deflecting criticism of her own administration’s apparent involvement in the matter.

Thanks again. You’ve made good points that added value to the original post.

Saludos,
Taos

Anonymous says:

restinna, you won´t get any money….even if you give him a hug
anonymous

Juan says:

Latam observer:

Chávez siezed control of Sidor, the biggest argentine investment in Venezuela. And a key strategic steel factory close to the huge US market.
The Ks did nothing to prevent that from happening. The money Chávez will depend on oil prices something the international court wouldnt have accepted.

Bate in mind that Chávez sends us “fuel oil” which is frobidden in many countries due to its huge polution and we still pay for it a lot more than its real value. We also pay Chávez more than 15% interest rates while the market charges 4%.

And Chávez almost wet his trousers when Lula calles hi
and afterwards Chávez went public saying he won’t take over any brazilian firm.

Pls Latin observer, grow up ir go back to your cereal and watch some cartoons on tv.

Latam Observer says:

Juan,

what’s with so much hostility? when it is combined with such gibberish and incoherent writing, its particularly unattractive. so it’s not totally clear what your point/points are. but i’ll take the educated guess that you are not a fan of either chavez or the Ks. and that you are arguing that argentina has gotten screwed by its relationship with venezuela. first, even if that was true, it would not be relevant to my point. the US still has no right to tell argentina or the Ks or expect them to not to do business with Chavez, regardless of what the nature of the business is. and regardless of whether that business is good for argentina. that’s a decision for the Ks to make as the democratically elected heads of the country. argentina is a sovereign country last time i checked. if you have a problem with that, then you need to go to the ballot box and vote for different leaders in 2011 (and preferably for opposition leaders who dont self-destruct within weeks as has happened in recent months) instead of simply complaining about the Ks and who they chose as their friends.

second, yes there have been some nationalizations in venezuela, but on balance, argentine businesses have done well in venezuela. read this link, its a nice nuanced piece. talks about the challenges, problems, things that have not worked out recently, especially since the global financial crisis, but at the same time discusses the importance of venezuela as a commerical partner to argentina and the growth in argentina exports to venezuela since 2003. you can call up any top private economic consulting firm in Buenos Aires to get the numbers that show a huge growth in argentina exports to venezuela from 2003 to 2007. i’d recommend abeceb.

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1078498

also regarding your point about the loans from chavez: its in some ways irrelevant to compare chavez’s interest rates with those of the market because argentina continues to be shut out of international debt markets. so market rates are not an option for argentina. you did not state this, but its also true that it’d be cheaper for argentina to go back to getting loans from the IMF than from Chavez. but then the government here would have to open up its books to be audited, for example INDEC, and for obvious reasons it does not want to do that. so chavez is the last resort. whether its the best thing for argentina is not really the point. i personally dont think it is. but it’s what argentina has chosen to do. its government made that decision, supported by the public. When Nestor negotiated the first canje for bondholders, the Argentine public supported him. so it has to learn to live with the consquences of that.

anyways, you should re-read my comment as well. not sure what you have against cereal or cartoons. breakfast is in fact the most important meal of the day. next time you want to make a clever insult, i suggest you ask some friends for some help.

Woorijip says:

Obama is hugging a woman he can understand. It gets lonely at the top, even with all those friends and policy advisors from Goldman Sachs in the White House. Obama is following the Argentine example of transferring wealth from the public sector into the private coffers of the super rich. What could be more Argentine and American than that? The super rich accumulate incredible amounts of debt and then have the government, beholden to them, bailout the debt at the tax payers’ expense. Voila! Yes, that leaves a depleted middle class and devastated working class, or as they say in the media, “The American consumer can no longer be expected to jumpstart the global economy.” It doesn’t matter to these two; they just continue to give speeches with vague, empty rhetoric and style themselves as populists. It is a warm and fuzzy picture. They should ‘do lunch”.

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Carlos says:

Obama, Cristina Fernandez, Hugo Chavez, same political garbage.

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